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“Zach’s going to Minnesota? HA! Sucks for you!”

Harlan. Garnett. McHale. Ollie. Love. Is there ever a Kevin that sticks around up there?

The Winter of Our Discontent is well into its 11th year up in The North Star State. The silver lining for the long-suffering fans of today’s guests at the Highlight Factory, the Minnesota Timberwolves (6:00 PM Eastern, SportSouth, Fox Sports North, 92.9-FM “The Game”), is one Kevin, Kevin Martin, is still there! For the moment, anyway, as the trade deadline is less than a month away. The sharpshooter might even play today after having missed most of this season with a wrist injury.

Despite enduring so many losing seasons without a playoff payoff, there remains something called “Minnesota Nice.” Minnesotans are a pragmatic bunch by nature, so there’s no better NBA market for teams that need fans willing to wait, even if it’s longer than anyone rationally planned. You need more time for your ankle to heal, Ricky Rubio? Go right ahead, there’s four more seasons left on your new $56 million contract extension. What’s the hurry, Kevin Martin? Bah, an extra month of downtime to heal that wrist is nothing. It’s not as if it’s going to take, like, 11 years or anything!

The T’wolves reached the Western Conference Finals in 2004, and Kevin Garnett and coach Flip Saunders led the way. It was a long time coming after GM Kevin McHale’s Joe Smith debacle hackjobbed the team’s ability to grow. But Coach Saunders struggled the next season, and by midseason he was replaced by McHale himself. While Saunders found his way to conference-finalist Detroit, GM McHale went back upstairs and finagled his way through coaching stints with Dwane Casey and Randy Wittman, along the way giving his Celtics buddy Danny Ainge a sweet deal to free up Garnett.

Wittman gets canned early in 2008-09, and at owner Glen Taylor’s behest, downstairs comes McHale again. By the end of that season, GM-Coach McHale is gone for good (we think) and Wittman shows up in D.C. to replace… Coach Flip Saunders. Rubio and a murder of point guards get drafted by new GM David Kahn, but the teenage star would have to wait two seasons for a Euro-buyout. A few Kahn-niving maneuvers here by the new GM, a cold-shoulder contract there by owner Glen Taylor, and within a couple years’ time there’s another Kevin (Love) looking for a way out. Kahn’s gone by 2013, and he’s replaced by… GM Flip Saunders!

Rick Adelman arrived in 2011 from Houston (Who else? He was replaced by McHale) to replace Kurt Rambis, who replaced McHale in 2009. But Adelman decides he’s getting too old for this gerbil wheel and retires in 2014. GM Saunders conducts an exhaustive search for a replacement and announces it’s… Coach Flip Saunders! Saunders flips Love out of Minnesota for two of Cleveland’s number-one-overall picks. But Coach Saunders struggled the next season, and by midseason… hold up, what year is this, again?

Perhaps the most comforting news for Wolves fans is that Andrew Wiggins’ first name isn’t Kevin (admit it, though: “Flip Wiggins” would be pretty cool). The struggle was real for the soon-to-be-20-year-old rookie in the first month of the season (11.6 PPG, 40.1 FG%, 67.5 FT%, 1.0 APG, 2.3 TO/game). But now the top-overall draft pick has taken charge of the Minnesota offense and the Rookie of the Year race, averaging 20.1 PPG on 46.4 FG% and 81.4 FT% in January. He’s also becoming more adroit as a ballhandler, averaging 2.7 APG and just 1.9 TO/game this month.

He struggled on Friday night in a 92-84 home loss to the Pelicans, and hasn’t broken 20 points in his past three games. But Wiggins’ career-highs of 31 points, eight defensive rebounds, four three-pointers and three blocks on January 17 in Denver helped thwart another losing skid for Minnesota, who had dropped 15 straight before topping the Pacers earlier that week. Fans of the Wolves (7-35) have not been treated to a home W since December 10. They’re fine waiting, though.

Wiggins’ in-season development was impeded largely because he has yet to have a stable core of veterans surrounding him. Besides Rubio and Martin, center Nikola Pekovic has been spending more time at the Mayo Clinic trying to get treatments for his bothersome ankle. He’s back, but it will take time for him to get up to, um, speed. Forward Thaddeus Young was granted bereavement time off after the passing of his mother, while swingman Corey Brewer was traded in December for second-year guard Troy Daniels. Rubio, Brewer, Young and Pek were the opening-day starters. Chase Budinger’s return after missing much of last season has been negligible, although he did contribute eight fourth-quarter points to make the last loss against New Orleans interesting.

Wiggins is blessed to have an All-Star guard dropping him dimes, however. What, you forgot about All-Star Mo Williams? Mo Williams won’t let anyone forget about Mo Williams. If you need Mo Williams (12.5 PPG, 6.4 APG, 40.4 FG%) to drop an NBA-season-high 52 points (check that… yeah, it still is) just to beat the present-day Pacers by nine, your season’s not going terribly well. But for one more day, he’s the reigning Western Conference Player of the Week because of it. Wiggins’ presence (and Rubio’s absence) has resulted in a passing rejuvenation for the always exuberant Williams (38.4 assist percentage, 10th in NBA).

Just based on floor experience, The New Teen Wolf (Wiggins) is literally a hardened veteran already, relative to the rest of his teammates. 2013 number-one-overall Anthony Bennett was an early-season surprise but regressed just as quickly. Sophomore wing Shabazz Muhammad (13.7 PPG and 48.8 FG%) is a candidate for Most Improved Player, but he’s out recovering from an oblique strain.

A strong D-League prospect, guard Zach LaVine was pressed into the starting point guard spot until recently due to all the injuries. Possessing unbridled athleticism, LaVine’s a thrill to watch if you’re not actually trying to win basketball games right now. Bennett (knee) and LaVine (elbow) are both questionable for today’s game. Reserve small forward Robbie Hummel still tries hard. Little Big Dog Glenn Robinson III, a 2014 second-rounder, is even less ready for primetime. Wayfaring second-year center Miroslav Raduljica is under his second 10-day contract.

One young gun who is working out for Minnesota is center Gorgui Dieng, the very definition of a skilled rim protector (1.7 BPG, 8th in NBA) and a board crasher (12.5 O-Reb%, 10th in NBA; 8.4 RPG, 19th in NBA). Saunders unveiled Dieng at power forward during Friday’s game against New Orleans (14 points, 15 rebounds, 3 assists), bringing in Pek off the bench to allow the pair to match up with Anthony Davis and Omer Asik. Unibrow struggled with his shot (9 for 23 FGs) against Dieng but still finished the day with his requisite double-double. Flip remains intrigued by the duo’s Twin Tower potential and may go to them early today to see how they will fare against borderline 2015 All-Stars Al Horford and Paul Millsap, as well as Pero Antić.

Saunders’ experimentation may result in a squeezeplay for Young, the power forward who failed to grab a rebound in 31 minutes Friday’s loss to the Pelicans. If Dieng works out well at the 4-spot, Saunders may put his GM hat on and shop the 76er refugee up until the trade deadline. Young (1.8 SPG, 10th in NBA) also had no steals in his past two games, but he’s always a threat to force turnovers, something Atlanta (36-8) will want to avoid if they expect to put the Wolves away early.

All of the moving parts, injuries, and inexperience never bodes well for a team defense, and Minnesota is no exception. The Wolves are the only team whose opponents are hitting nearly half of their shots (49.4 opponent FG%, worst in NBA; 38.4 opponent 3FG%, 2nd worst in NBA). Accordingly, they give up a league-high 107.4 PPG, although a reduced pace has allowed them to hold their last four opponents below that average.

Dieng isn’t simply the last line of defense around the rim, he’s the only dot, as Minnesota’s opponents make an NBA-high 18.9 field goals in the restricted area, at a league-high 66.8 FG%. For all his length, Pekovic (career 0.6 BPG and 5.4 defensive rebounds per-36) isn’t likely to ameliorate the defensive problems in the Wolves’ interior (league-high 47.4 opponent PPG in the paint).

The Wolves’ cushy interior and lax perimeter D could make for a fun day for the Hawks’ bench corps. Atlanta continues to try to feed Mike Scott (40.7 FG% on shots from 3-10 feet) in the post, but he must convert with better efficiency. Scott shot 2-for-9 on two-point field goals in his last two games, and the Hawks will want to see more of the emoji-tatted guy who went 7-for-9 on twos during the MLK Day victory against the Pistons.

Dennis Schröder’s shot wasn’t falling against OKC, but Dieng and Wiggins’ likely Rising Stars Game teammate showed tremendous poise as a ballhandler against the Thunder’s aggressive guards. He’s averaged 4.8 assists and just 0.8 turnovers over 17.4 minutes in the past four games.

Thabo Sefolosha should be in a more relaxed mood after successfully defending Kevin Durant and Thunder guards in his brief stints, and he and Kent Bazemore will be ready to score off of T’wolf turnovers. There is no way Pekovic will divert from camping out in the paint, so perimeter shots will be like three-point free throws for Antić.

While the Hawks starters, many of whom are still making their case for an All-Star nod, won’t take Minnesota likely, they will strive to build as sizable lead as possible to allot second-half minutes for Minnesota native Mike Muscala. The Pride of Roseville has only seen double-digit minutes against Philadelphia over the past couple months. Moose is a tried-and-true Minnesotan, though, so he won’t mind the wait. No rush.

Let’s Go Hawks!



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Posted by Dolfan23 in Dolfan23's Blog, 08 March 2014 - - - - - - · 140 views

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The beatings will continue. But, does morale need to improve?
After just five double-digit losses on the season going into February, our Atlanta Hawks have dropped seven of their last ten deficits by ten or more points, including last night’s collapse at Golden State.
Even with the playing field leveled somewhat by opponents’ misfortunes, the Hawks’ defensive ineptitude has the team failing to capitalize. LaMarcus Aldridge had a rare night struggling from the field on Wednesday. But Blazers were freed up like Lil Boosie all along the perimeter, and offset Aldridge’s lost production with a barrage of open three-point shots. Klay Thompson exits last night with a back injury, and the remaining Warriors shot just 6-for-19 from 3-point range, but the Hawks got gashed in the paint by Jermaine O’Neal and David Lee while shooting just 8-for-34 on threes themselves.
Atlanta is on pace to drop 10 straight away games for the first time since losing their last 13 road games under Mike Woodson back in 2007. Yet there are no signs of finger-pointing, no dissension within the ranks among Budenholzer’s Bunch. It may be that the team is reading its static position in the standings and the “nice try” platitudes in the press clippings, and no one cares enough to find a panic button to push.
With no need to secure an All-Star trip or sustain any NBA records, the “sense of urgency” once preached by Larry Drew no longer reverberates in the locker room. Competitiveness has given way to complacency with the Hawks, but it appears they understand composure will be the key to assessing how victorious this team can be once their treacherous road tour concludes.
Things will get no easier tonight (10:30 PM Eastern, SportSouth, PRIME) against a rested Los Angeles Clippers team that’s won six straight, including an epic serving of comeuppance on their longtime tenant mate Lakers on Thursday night.
Jamal Crawford (19.0 PPG, second in team scoring) has been starting in place of the injured J.J. Redick, but he had to miss the past three games and remains questionable for tonight with a calf strain. Yet Darren Collison stepped up and delivered 24 of the Clips’ NBA-season-high 142 points on the Lakers. Former Hawk Willie Green has struggled mightily with his shot but may get a call to start if Crawford’s a late scratch.
The Clips (43-20) are 8-2 and have averaged 117.3 PPG in ten games since Chris Paul (11.0 APG, 1st in NBA; 10.5 APG since February 1) returned from a month-long shoulder injury. They now average a league-leading 107.7 PPG, a value that doesn’t bode well for a oil-leaking Hawk defense (110.3 opponent PPG in Atlanta’s last ten games).
L.A. shored up their backup forward positions, dispatching Antawn Jamison (to the Hawks) and sending Byron Mullens out to pasture while making room for buyout targets Danny Granger and Glen Davis. Each player is being acclimated slowly but may get significant minutes tonight if Blake Griffin (24.1 PPG, 6th in NBA) and DeAndre Jordan (66.1 FG% and 14.0 RPG, 1st in NBA) need a spell. Atlanta will need another footloose performance from Mike Scott and more elbow shots from Elton Brand to outperform Granger and Davis.
To keep themselves off of the wrong side of SportsCenter highlights and Twitter hashtags, the Hawks will need to shield Griffin 24-7 (DeMarre Carroll in the fullcourt, Paul Millsap in the halfcourt) and keep him moving laterally rather than rolling full-steam ahead toward the basket. Both players must commit fouls judiciously.
Ex-Hawk point guards Rivers and Tyronn Lue have had ample time to gameplan for Jeff Teague. He will need effective screens to free himself up from his Demon Deacon alum Paul (2.4 SPG, 1st in NBA), who is seeking an All-Defensive 1st Team selection for the third-straight season, and make quick and decisive maneuvers with the basketball.
Matt Barnes was unavailable when the Hawks beat the Clippers in December. Today, he'll be latched onto Kyle Korver (23 points vs. LAC on December 4, 6-of-9 on threes, tying the NBA consecutive-game record). With Korver heavily occupied, a big offensive night from Carroll and Pero Antić could stretch the defense and benefit both Millsap (25 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 blocks on December 4; who needs to keep Griffin busy defensively) and Teague finding points in the paint against Jordan (2.4 BPG, 6th in NBA). Re-establishing accuracy on deep shots will be a tall order against the league's best team defensively against the three-pointer (32.6 opponent 3FG%).
Go Hawks!


Trade Talk

Posted by MikeMorgan in MikeMorgan's Blog, 10 December 2013 - - - - - - · 139 views
Omer Asik

I'm very impressed with the Hawks thus far. However a trade for Omer Asik would put us as one of the top teams in the East. Al Holford has never had a chance to be a power forward. His shot is better and so is his low post game. With those simple moves we will be on our way. Let's go Hawks


The Horford Question

Posted by Diesel in Diesel's Blog, 30 July 2013 - - - - - - · 186 views
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The Horford Question


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Is he ready?  Is HE Ready?  IS HE READY?  That's the question that Atlanta Hawks fans are quietly asking themselves about the last remaining piece of the Billy Knight Era, Al Horford or Horf (if you will).  Thus far, Danny Ferry has done a job of ridding himself of everything that said Billy Knight.  It's almost as if he believed that anything Knight brought in was plague ridden and not fit for this team.    When you look at it, what Knight used as his core:  Johnson, Smith, Williams, Horf, Larry Drew, and sometimes Zaza was sent away with nothing in return.  Ferry traded and ignored them all so that he can have his precious capspace.  Like I have said in previous posts, Ferry is going to do what Elitest do.  Trust only himself and upkeep his own standard.  However, it brings us back to Horf.  Horf is the last of the Mohicans.   Just call him Uncas. 
The question of his readiness is at hand.   He has been surrounded by efficient, physical players to match his efficiency and physicality.  For all the years that he has been called Bawse, now is the proving time.   He has to be the first option scorer on offense and leader in the lockerroom.   For what it's worth, he has already shown great leadership by welcoming every incoming player personally.  The good news is that there will be a few familiar faces in the person of Teague, Korver, and Lou; however, this time, there is no JSmoove to back him up on defense or to kill him softly on offense.   There is no Larry who will draw up ball movement plays instead of focusing on position specific plays.  So people want to know what should Horf do to get ready?  Here are the Dieselputers answers.
1.  Perfect the Pick and Roll.
Horford is a face up, high post player.   He is perfect for the screen and roll and pick and pop.  He has to master that part of his game.  Some say he should work on his low post, we will address that in point two.  However,  the Pick and Roll and Pick and Pop is the offensive scheme that will happen when we fall out of transition.   Horford has to be really fluid with this because this will be how our hard points will be generated.  
2.  Make a case for bringing in a 7 footer to play Center.
Horford is naturally a PF.   He should petition to play PF.  The league is getting big again.  Horf should be banging with the likes of Bynum, Lopez, Hibbert, and Oden.  Since he is the leader of the Hawks, we need to realize that all of that banging is too much on him.  We can't have him physically distressed.  Instead, we should bring in a big who can run the floor and fight down low and allow Horf to play the PF.   My suggestion is trading for Gortat.  He's a 7 footer with Speed.  We've missed out on everybody else.  Horf has to be at the 4.  IF we can't get Gortat, wait a while and pitch for Asik.  While Asik is not as fast as Gortat, he brings the defense we need.
3.  Defense, Defense, Defense.
Smoove's one great attribute is that he understood defensive spacing.   Horf needs to be the guy who directs our defense.  He needs to be able to bark at players and tell them where they need to be. 
4.  Your twin Millsap is not a twin at all.
I see a lot of people saying that Millsap and Horf are the same.   Not really.  Millsap actually shoots better from distance and Horf shoots better in the midrange.  I think Millsap may be our Sf parttime and PF parttime.  IF so, we will be a very tough team.  Horf has to learn and build chemistry with Millsap.  Especially if we get a true 5.
5.  Teague and DNice are your friends.  Take them out and feed them.
Horf has to learn how to lead these two young points.  Not just on the court, but certainly off it.
If we do those things, we will surprise many.  But it's up to Horf.


An Open Letter To Josh Smith

Posted by HawkRock1123 in ATL Hoops, 21 February 2012 - - - - - - · 376 views
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Dear Mr. Smith,

…and I certainly do mean Mr. Smith, because you have come into your own. Nobody knows that better than longtime Hawks fans.

If a man came across the Grand Canyon for the first time, knowing nothing about the way that such a marvel could come into existence, he may just assume that it had been that way since the beginning of time. But we know better. We know that creating the Grand Canyon took an enormous amount of time and energy, little by little carving out what is now a wonder to embrace. Only the Good Lord knows what this piece of land looked like at the beginning of time. Only He watched it grow.

But with you, basketball fans in Atlanta were more privileged.

Those of us who have been with the team since before we were relevant remember what we thought the first time you put on your hometown team’s uniform. They told us you were an 18 year old kid, and we had to take them at their word. But to my college buddies and myself, you looked more like a super-charged cyborg sent from the future with a single objective: dunk.

And you did. You dunked on everybody. You went to the rim every time. You were fearless, a warrior bringing inspiration to an otherwise lifeless team. The only thing you seemed to care about as much as dunking was thwarting the feeble attempts of those less worthy. Dunk belonged only to you. It was your birthright, a blessing which you graciously shared with those who wore the same jersey. All others were denied for their blasphemies.

And we loved you for it. You gave us something to cheer for back when the postseason was a pipe dream, a time of the year when we had to find another team to root for because our beloved Hawks were on early vacation. We left a lot of empty space in the win column that season, but you gave us a reason to check Sportscenter every morning. “I wonder what Josh did last night….”

Last week, you were once again overlooked by the invisible powers-that-be for the NBA All-Star game. I thought NBA coaches did the voting, but given the results, I have to think that the voters are a collection of angry individuals who sit in an undisclosed dark room not watching basketball. Given your performance in this grueling shortened season, I can only assume that their methods for choosing All-Stars consists solely of staring ignorantly at each other and saying “Let’s just pick the same guys from last year.

But we see you.

We the fans have watched you grow from a young dunk-Jedi with a world of potential into a complete (and remarkably unique) NBA star. Season after season, you have done the dirty work on a team that needed your energy to weather the storms of roster changes, injuries, and indifference from the rest of the league.

Let’s be honest, Mr. Smith. You don’t fit into their mold. They haven’t watched you like we have. They don’t understand. And here’s what is perhaps most important about your game – you know it.

And I know you know it, because I have watched you play, Mr. Smith. I have watched you play since you were Josh the 18 year-old kid. They overlooked you then too, and you used it as a motivation. You had something to prove, knowing that your unique skill set made you an invaluable piece of a winning team. Like any good warrior, you used their negligence of the obvious to fuel your fire. Why sugar coat this? You play with a chip on your shoulder. It makes you who you are, a volatile player who has learned to focus their negative energy where it belongs – at the rim.

We’re with you. They overlook us too. In that way, you embody the spirit of this franchise. The Hawks are a team that nobody takes seriously, even when we beat the best. We eliminate the Magic in the first round like it’s strictly business, and the media cites their failure rather than our success. We take the Bulls to the limit, and still we’re regarded as “lucky to have it made it that far.”

But we know better, and we know better about you, Mr. Smith. We know the player that was the turning point for this franchise. We know the difference-maker, the secret weapon, the gladiator. We know because we have spent time in your arena. We have seen the victims who lay in your wake.

So I hope that you will understand that “NBA All-Star” is an arbitrary distinction, a popularity contest decided by the people you spent the last 8 years dunking on.

Let’s be honest. You didn’t want to play for them anyway.


Scott Hall
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Sund gets an A+

Posted by Buzzard in Buzzard's Blog, 08 October 2009 - - - - - - · 461 views

With the advent of our 3rd season of having our core starting five together, Sund's direction seems to be creating a better overall team through depth. Its a wait and see attitude; in which our ability to step up as a team to the next level depends solely on the improvement of these core three players: Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, and Al Horford.

Some may disagree with this strategy; but if you look at the free agents that were available this past off season it is a sound strategy. 1st off, all three of our core are still young veterans by anyones standards. 2nd, all three have shown the ability to improve some part of their game throughout their short NBA careers. And 3rd, Sund was able to improve our bench depth and leadership via free agency and one draft pick two consecutive seasons.

We as fans always want to see the home run season; problems are many with that strategy and here are the two that standout for me. 1st, you may miss as his the case in my opinion with Kenyon Martin and for more than one full season both Baron Davis and Carlos Boozer. 2nd, there are not that many home run hitters available in the NBA. Guys who can put you over the top just with their signing. We only need to look at next seasons bumper crop. With all the expectations and excitement concerning 2010 free agency, only three to five players are considered franchise type players. 3 to 5 to be divided by 30 teams and this is a great year.

Putting all your bets into free agency is as much a crap shoot as the draft. More so when you take into account the player has the choice and not the team. If the Knicks strike out next season there could be riots at the Garden. Even if they don't, the Knicks may very well have to over pay dearly to convince one of these high profile players to come there. Same for all the teams in the free agent running next season.

Sund's direction is much more sound than betting we can sign a player to put us over the top. All we need is for our core group to continue to improve, while players like JJ and Bibby continue to show the leadership that is needed for such a young group of veterans. If they do this and Sund maintains the quality depth he has shown us the last two seasons, it could very well be Josh, Marvin, or Al who are being sought out as franchise changers five to six years from now.

I am holding off including Teague in this as far as a core player goes. But he does have some serious skills and hops. Now that would be something to behold as a Hawk fan next season, when as many as ten teams or more are scrambling for one of five core players, we are talking about our core four improving for another season!

Sund is doing as good a job at GM as anyone in the league; especially considering the budget and players he began his stint here with. Lets just see what lays ahead for our young core and vet leaders before declaring the winner of the Lebron etc sweepstakes the real winner.


What I want to do in the free agency...

Posted by mattlanta in Libid21's Blog, 05 July 2009 - - - - - - · 415 views

Time is ticking, and Rick Sund has to make a move for a big right now! Re-sign Zaza at least, and worry about the rest of the free agents later. There's no point in thinking of the playoffs if you don't bring back Zaza because he will be much harder to replace than any other free agents we have.

I would like our lineup to look like this...

PG: Bibby / Teague
SG: Johnson / Crawford / West
SF: Williams / Evans
PF: Smith
C: Horford / Pachulia / Andersen

This list was made by...
Resigning Zaza
Resigning Marvin
Resigning Bibby
Resigning Andersen
Resigning West

This is possible, Rick!


Hawks X's And O's

Posted by BeeSwatter in Nothin' But Net, 28 January 2009 - - - - - - · 495 views

Another hot topic on the board for sometime. In the first of a two part post I want to look at the Hawks switching man to man defense. I have been recording nearly all of the Hawks games from this season and I have re-watched pieces of the Hawks December trek through the Texas Triangle, Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio.

I noticed as early as the Hornets game that the Hawks were switching nearly every ball screen no matter what players were involved. This was fairly effective in the second half of that New Orleans game as the switching really kept Chris Paul out of the lane after he had had a huge first half. There are many options for tactics when defending screens. The Hawks are one of the few teams I have seen that switch on every screen. I believe to be able to switch all screens then you have to go back to BK's plan of having 5 guys on the court that are athletic with long arms that can defend. As you can see on many nights when the Hawks have brought a defensive intensity to the game this plan has been able to work. Many times however this has not been the case. In this Texas series we ran up on coaches that were able to manipulate the match ups. The Spurs in particular ended up with ZaZa trying to guard Ginobli on the perimeter simply by setting a high screen.

Over the next few days I am going to watch some other NBA games and I want to see their tactics on ball screens and see the differences.


Who are the top 5 players in Hawks Franchise History?

Posted by Deeman in Deeman's Blog, 23 August 2008 - - - - - - · 341 views

I started following the Hawks around 1997, so I don't know alot about this franchise. I want to know who you think are the 5 best players in Atlanta Hawks history. Don't worry about the team's sucess just the 5 best individual players.

Here is my list
2.Pistol Pete
3.Joe Johnson
4.Steve Smith
5.Shareef Abdur Rahim
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Swish's Hawksquawk Member Power Rankings

Posted by Swish in Swish's Blog, 05 August 2008 - - - - - - · 319 views

OK, the inaguaural SHSMPR....here goes...

15. Traceman

A "charter" member, so to speak, Traceman has season tickets and contributes objectively, regularly, and kindly to the Squawk. Its posters like Trace who are the glue.

14. Hotlanta1981

Earns the spot for quantity alone. Also for managing to smash anything Hawks related.

13. DrReality

The name says it all. A strong dose of reality for Diesel and other hallucinators.

12. HawksFanatic

Contributing invaluable financial, mathematical and cap information keeps HawksFanatic one of my favorite posters. If you have a cap question, go here. He may have a better hold on things than Rick Sund and ASG.

11. Libid21

For stepping in and helping out with technical advice when the forum switch was made and keeping us all technically in check, Libid21's stock is rising. Is there an apprentice moderator title dolfan?

10. sturt

Founder and part of the faction that balances out Diesel, the only problem with sturt is his lack of quantity.

9. NorthCyde

ASG's resident apologist, 'cyde provides a different side to things occasionally.

8. chillzatl

Though I've never read a chillz post and he apparently makes himself very scarce, he rates high because of status.

7. Brotha2thanite

His apparently valid communication with Chillz sends him skyrocketing up the relevance list for now.

6. exodus

Always present and an excellent arguer, exodus provides many insightful posts and manages to usually back up his arguments with valid statistics and facts.

5. DJLaysitup

For combining dry wit and post quantity, DJ can't be topped.

4. kudzu23

Don't know too much about him, but have to give admin's their props.

3. ifthenwouldi (MrHOnline)

Always a substanceful (new word!) poster and not one to argue, and racking up the favorite poster votes lands the late MrH the third spot.

2. Diesel

What can you say? When the Dieselputer is on, its really on. When its off, well, yeah. Diesel is the engine of the forum, always starting a good new topic for discussion and constantly thinking of new trades for Marvin Williams.

1. Dolfan23

Admin, programmer, moderator and good guy (apparently?) dolfan is always ready to help with your technical questions and throw in his basketball knowledge.

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