Yi hardly looked like the 6th pick of the draft against a US team of incoming freshman and sophomores as he was 3 of 8 from the field and struggled on both ends of the floor.
He scored 11 meaningless points at the foul line in the 4th quarter after the blow out was long sealed. Two other Chinese players led the team in scoring.
I will say it again. China is a 2nd class basketball country that is light years beyond Europe. A bunch of just out of high schoolers and 2nd year college kids pounded their ass. Yi should have done a lot better against that kind of competition.
The talk about him being as All Star is so laughable that it may be the worst prediction on this board ever. The kid has light years to go before he can do anything of substance in the NBA. I'm shocked that we didn't draft him because we usually suffer after the draft watching our lottery picks struggle in the summer league. China plays against the Dallas Maverick summer team tomorrow and my guess is he will not look good.
Thankfully, this bust is not ours.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:18 AM
Don't you think that's a bit of an overreaction? I'm just saying - give the kid a chance to get his feet wet in the NBA. I'll be interested to see what happens when he starts playing with talent around him. The rest of the Chinese team is garbage and it doesn't help Yi in the least.
What's laughable is to write off an entire career after one summer league game.
What's laughable is to write off an entire career after one summer league game.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:30 AM
I wrote off Yi a long time ago. BTW, he was their 3rd leading scorer and struggled on defense against a 19 and under US team.
He is not strong enough to play in the league right now. If he can't get more than 8 shots off against a bunch of 18 and 19 year old kids he is in trouble. The number 6 pick in the draft should have done a lot more against that competition. Thats what lottery picks do against comp like that.
The CBA is like the Patriot League. It is so inferior it isn't even in the ballpark. The fact is that if this kid was 6'9 he wouldnt even have been drafted because his strength and skill level is not even close. The fact that he is 7'1 makes him interesting. Problem is his skill level is not where it needs to be. He is 248 pounds and is just weak. He will be the recipient of a lot of facials this year and I'm relieved that they won't be for us.
He is not strong enough to play in the league right now. If he can't get more than 8 shots off against a bunch of 18 and 19 year old kids he is in trouble. The number 6 pick in the draft should have done a lot more against that competition. Thats what lottery picks do against comp like that.
The CBA is like the Patriot League. It is so inferior it isn't even in the ballpark. The fact is that if this kid was 6'9 he wouldnt even have been drafted because his strength and skill level is not even close. The fact that he is 7'1 makes him interesting. Problem is his skill level is not where it needs to be. He is 248 pounds and is just weak. He will be the recipient of a lot of facials this year and I'm relieved that they won't be for us.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:33 AM
I am still waiting for someone to step up to the challenge in my sig. I have a feeling i will be waiting a long time.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:34 AM
"We've got to take the player with the most talent"
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:37 AM
It does make me think there was a lot of smoke and mirrors around him. The chair, the highly controlled workouts, etc. He may turn out fine but I'm glad we skipped him, particularly if he is really 22.
My favorite quote (about the Bucks):
"I don't want to talk about that."
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:38 AM
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DALLAS -- This won't come as any great consolation to folks in Milwaukee wondering how long it'll be before Yi Jianlian visits their town ... but I got my own first look Sunday.
Yi was in Dallas and in uniform, coming off the bench for the Chinese senior national team against the under-19 edition of Team USA at SMU.
How'd he do?
You're undoubtedly well aware by now that Yi's representatives want their guy in a major market and are calling for the Bucks to trade him immediately, but here's something I suspect that the warring sides can agree on: They'd probably prefer if I didn't say too much about this one.
That's because it wasn't exactly Yi's finest two hours.
He had one point and four fouls entering the fourth quarter of China's 91-75 defeat. He missed badly on two early attempts to finish inside with his left hand, even though he wasn't exactly facing polished defenders. There's no denying it: For long stretches in his first game since the Bucks made him the No. 6 overall selection in Thursday's draft, Yi either looked uptight or tired.
Yet it's probably worth pointing out that Yi, even in those states, still managed to drop 14 points in a surprisingly spirited final period, even though there were at least two occasions that he lagged behind the action while gasping for breath.
He's not in game shape, true. But a quick flurry of seven points with Bucks scout Scott Howard watching courtside -- one silky J and a long 3-pointer to live up to his vaunted shooting touch, followed by a quick and nimble spin through the lane to sink a running one-hander -- flashed just enough skill to hint at why Howard's bosses felt they couldn't pass on this guy, no matter how much trouble they face getting him to Wisconsin.
Whether you believe he's 19 or 22, Yi is an unquestionably mobile 7-footer. He has quick feet, he's got a perimeter game and, by all accounts, he wants to be coached. Sounds like upside to me. The proverbial stuff you can't teach.
It's also easier to rationalize some of his Sunday struggles when you remember that he's practiced only once with his countrymen since flying in from New York ... and when the international rules in place made the game so much grabbier than an NBA game would be ... and when you're reminded that guard play (Lakers draftee Sun Yue included) remains a big-time weakness for China, which is always going to affect Yi's effectiveness if Yao Ming (who wasn't in attendance thanks to a shoulder injury) isn't there to open up the floor.
The Chinese are training in Big D through the July 4 holiday before flying to Vegas to participate in the NBA's ever-growing summer league. So perhaps we'll learn more about Yi's Milwaukee future on Monday, when he's scheduled to participate in a press conference at the newly opened House of Blues with Dallas mayor Tom Leppert in advance of China's encounter Tuesday with the Mavericks' summer-league team.
I know that's not the customary post-draft press conference Bucks fans were counting on. I know this definitely wasn't the sort of post-draft display that Bucks officials or Yi's handlers were hoping for. I know, most of all, that answers about how the Bucks and Team Yi are going to resolve this standoff are what everyone is waiting to hear.
In the interim, though, at least we did learn a little more about Yi's game. Even on an off night.
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DALLAS -- This won't come as any great consolation to folks in Milwaukee wondering how long it'll be before Yi Jianlian visits their town ... but I got my own first look Sunday.
Yi was in Dallas and in uniform, coming off the bench for the Chinese senior national team against the under-19 edition of Team USA at SMU.
How'd he do?
You're undoubtedly well aware by now that Yi's representatives want their guy in a major market and are calling for the Bucks to trade him immediately, but here's something I suspect that the warring sides can agree on: They'd probably prefer if I didn't say too much about this one.
That's because it wasn't exactly Yi's finest two hours.
He had one point and four fouls entering the fourth quarter of China's 91-75 defeat. He missed badly on two early attempts to finish inside with his left hand, even though he wasn't exactly facing polished defenders. There's no denying it: For long stretches in his first game since the Bucks made him the No. 6 overall selection in Thursday's draft, Yi either looked uptight or tired.
Yet it's probably worth pointing out that Yi, even in those states, still managed to drop 14 points in a surprisingly spirited final period, even though there were at least two occasions that he lagged behind the action while gasping for breath.
He's not in game shape, true. But a quick flurry of seven points with Bucks scout Scott Howard watching courtside -- one silky J and a long 3-pointer to live up to his vaunted shooting touch, followed by a quick and nimble spin through the lane to sink a running one-hander -- flashed just enough skill to hint at why Howard's bosses felt they couldn't pass on this guy, no matter how much trouble they face getting him to Wisconsin.
Whether you believe he's 19 or 22, Yi is an unquestionably mobile 7-footer. He has quick feet, he's got a perimeter game and, by all accounts, he wants to be coached. Sounds like upside to me. The proverbial stuff you can't teach.
It's also easier to rationalize some of his Sunday struggles when you remember that he's practiced only once with his countrymen since flying in from New York ... and when the international rules in place made the game so much grabbier than an NBA game would be ... and when you're reminded that guard play (Lakers draftee Sun Yue included) remains a big-time weakness for China, which is always going to affect Yi's effectiveness if Yao Ming (who wasn't in attendance thanks to a shoulder injury) isn't there to open up the floor.
The Chinese are training in Big D through the July 4 holiday before flying to Vegas to participate in the NBA's ever-growing summer league. So perhaps we'll learn more about Yi's Milwaukee future on Monday, when he's scheduled to participate in a press conference at the newly opened House of Blues with Dallas mayor Tom Leppert in advance of China's encounter Tuesday with the Mavericks' summer-league team.
I know that's not the customary post-draft press conference Bucks fans were counting on. I know this definitely wasn't the sort of post-draft display that Bucks officials or Yi's handlers were hoping for. I know, most of all, that answers about how the Bucks and Team Yi are going to resolve this standoff are what everyone is waiting to hear.
In the interim, though, at least we did learn a little more about Yi's game. Even on an off night.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:48 AM
If he can't get more than 8 shots off against a bunch of 18 and 19 year old kids he is in trouble.
That is a funny statement! I didn't want Yi either like some here on this board for some of the same reasons you stated. He is OBVIOUSLY a project and the Hawks have NO TIME to wait any longer but you have to realize Yi is 19yrs old himself. So saying he doesn't look like a star against 18 or 19 yr. olds is stupid when Yi himself is still a kid at 19. Yi is just all POTENTIAL which is why he got drafted high. I don't think he will be a complete bust like you say but it will take time for him to make an impact in the NBA.
That is a funny statement! I didn't want Yi either like some here on this board for some of the same reasons you stated. He is OBVIOUSLY a project and the Hawks have NO TIME to wait any longer but you have to realize Yi is 19yrs old himself. So saying he doesn't look like a star against 18 or 19 yr. olds is stupid when Yi himself is still a kid at 19. Yi is just all POTENTIAL which is why he got drafted high. I don't think he will be a complete bust like you say but it will take time for him to make an impact in the NBA.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:49 AM
Here's another take on the same game..
Yi struggles early: In his first game on American soil since being drafted, Yi had trouble converting in the paint against strong American forwards, finishing the first half 0-for-4 from the field and 1-for-4 from the line.
In the second half, Yi began to find the shooting touch that was a primary factor in his No. 6 overall selection by the Milwaukee Bucks. He hit several midrange jumpers off screens and began converting from the free throw line, finishing with 15 points.
"It's the first time this season we worked with Yi, and it's been one month since we worked with Sun Yue, so maybe other guys expected too much from them," China coach Jonas Kazlauskas said.
So you expect Yi to just jump off the couch, play with guys he hasn't played with or practiced with and do better than he did?
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Yi struggles early: In his first game on American soil since being drafted, Yi had trouble converting in the paint against strong American forwards, finishing the first half 0-for-4 from the field and 1-for-4 from the line.
In the second half, Yi began to find the shooting touch that was a primary factor in his No. 6 overall selection by the Milwaukee Bucks. He hit several midrange jumpers off screens and began converting from the free throw line, finishing with 15 points.
"It's the first time this season we worked with Yi, and it's been one month since we worked with Sun Yue, so maybe other guys expected too much from them," China coach Jonas Kazlauskas said.
So you expect Yi to just jump off the couch, play with guys he hasn't played with or practiced with and do better than he did?
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That is a funny statement! I didn't want Yi either like some here on this board for some of the same reasons you stated. He is OBVIOUSLY a project and the Hawks have NO TIME to wait any longer but you have to realize Yi is 19yrs old himself. So saying he doesn't look like a star against 18 or 19 yr. olds is stupid when Yi himself is still a kid at 19. Yi is just all POTENTIAL which is why he got drafted high. I don't think he will be a complete bust like you say but it will take time for him to make an impact in the NBA.
He may be 22 though...
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:52 AM
Well they were saying on draft night he was 19 so that is what i'm going with.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:52 AM
Another important point is that Yi had only 1 point and 4 fouls going into the 4th. His team was down by 25 and the game was over.
Anybody that has played knows that garbage time points don't count. The game is over and Yi starts scoring. Big deal. Where was he when the game was on the line?
Yi was searching for that chair he schooled during the draft workouts.
Again, I'm so happy we don't have another project. Marvins summer league reminds me of how hopeless it feels to have a player prove he isnt ready. Yi is not ready. Thankfully, he isn't ours.
Anybody that has played knows that garbage time points don't count. The game is over and Yi starts scoring. Big deal. Where was he when the game was on the line?
Yi was searching for that chair he schooled during the draft workouts.
Again, I'm so happy we don't have another project. Marvins summer league reminds me of how hopeless it feels to have a player prove he isnt ready. Yi is not ready. Thankfully, he isn't ours.
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Posted 02 July 2007 - 09:56 AM
He's not in game shape, true. But a quick flurry of seven points with Bucks scout Scott Howard watching courtside -- one silky J and a long 3-pointer to live up to his vaunted shooting touch, followed by a quick and nimble spin through the lane to sink a running one-hander -- flashed just enough skill to hint at why Howard's bosses felt they couldn't pass on this guy, no matter how much trouble they face getting him to Wisconsin.
Whether you believe he's 19 or 22, Yi is an unquestionably mobile 7-footer. He has quick feet, he's got a perimeter game and, by all accounts, he wants to be coached. Sounds like upside to me. The proverbial stuff you can't teach.
Whether you believe he's 19 or 22, Yi is an unquestionably mobile 7-footer. He has quick feet, he's got a perimeter game and, by all accounts, he wants to be coached. Sounds like upside to me. The proverbial stuff you can't teach.
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