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[dimes4life]

If JT is still on  a rokie contract than the Hawks can get rid of JT to the Raptors who are desperate for a second scoring option and the Hawks than can draft anybody they would like after Lebron, Darco and Mello are gone....how bout that?

[capstone21]

nope, I do not want to start over again with an unproven college talent.  

We know what JT can do.  If he is to be traded it is for a player that can instantly help this team get better.

[Diesel]

We bring TJ Ford in and let him scrimmage against JT.

Sure the league will fine us but if TJ is all that they say... It will be interesting.  Play some 5 on 5 with a mixed squad.

I would hate to see Ford as the next Jason Kidd.

[cyman3]

i donno... TJ FORD- man.  Pass up on a JasonKidd type player?
If he was strong at workouts and really did look like a future Jason Kidd- i probably would.

But then again, we still need that typical sharpshooting SG to go w/ Ford.  If a rookie Ford is our only ball handler (like JT was), he'd do worse than JT... our turnovers would be sky high (if it isint already)!

[JaHawk10]

TJ Ford a Jason Kidd type? I dunno. He's not that impressive to me. I see him being more in the mold of Kenny Anderson...

[cyman3]

again... like i said- if the guy had strong workouts and really did look like a PG with that extra 6th sense (know where ur teammates are without looking)... the special thing KIDD and MAGIC has that made them special.

These days, all the PGs tend to be like Jason Terry (not a bad thing) but not to the degree of his level.  

I would take JT before KIDD when it comes to 3-point contest, ft contest, or just straight up SHOOTING CONTEST.  But when it comes to making a foundation for ur team- u need that special player that only comes once or twice a decade.

Now, dont get me wrong.  If TJ FORD looked like another brevin knight/kenny anderson (again, its not a bad thing- just not as good as people expected) in his workouts, i'd keep JASON TERRY.

Its a good thing i dont have to make these decisions... i wouldnt want that type of pressure

[Dolfan23]

The only people who would compare TJ Ford to Kenny Anderson or Brevin Knight are people who are showing themselves to be VERY uneducated about TJ Ford.  Trust me I have been watching this kid play for years (he played HS ball down the street from where I live) and I watched him play quite a few games on local TV and then the tourney of course.  Its true that he isnt much of a shooter, but he can get to the basket as well as any PG in the NBA, even JT, but what makes him so special is his ability to set up the open man by doing so and by being able to get him the ball.  He is going to be one of those players that several teams will be wondering why they overlooked him.  One of the biggest things that you cannot overlook with Ford is the fact that EVERYWHERE he has been in his life has led to a winning team.  The guy is a winner and makes his teammates better.

[Dolfan23]

Is that a trade that you guys would do?  I [censored] sure know that I would and it works salary wise.  Would the Raptors do it though?  Jeffries is a guy that I liked a ton coming out of the draft and I believe he has real potential to be a Doug Christie type of player in this league and Mo Pete would be a good swingman to have in the backcourt with our draft pick Ford.  

Ford/Dickau
Mo Pete/DJ
Dog/Dion or Newble
SAR/Hendu
Theo/Nazr

I dont know if that lineup would be that much better, but I have to believe that having a true PG like Ford would instantly make this team more of a team with his court vision and instincts.

[Playoffs03]

Dolfan23

i like your deal a lot.

mo pete is a pretty good scorer but he is inconsistent. he will be more consistent when playing along side a true point guard like tj ford and jefferies can take over newble's role. this deal saves us money because we don't need to sign newble anymore.

unlike mo pete, jt is much better at creating his own shots and would give the raptors a consistent 2nd option, in addition, alvin is not a great ball handler or distributor, by having jt playing the 2, they can compromise each others strengths and weaknesses. jt would be a real great fit for them.

[Diesel]

MY only question is can Mo Pete run the two?  And, I would love to see a  mixed squad scrimmage between these two before draft night:

JT/Glover/Ira/SAR/Theo

vs.

Ford/DJ/Grob/Hendu/Nazr

I mean, that's a simple request.  IF we were to do that trade, let's see what we got?  I think Ford would do a fine job.  The only concerns I have about Ford is his size.... BUT being that he is a PG, I don't think that's a problem.

[Diesel]

Well, I will say that he has Lots more speed than JK could ever have.  But mainly what I was talking about was Court vision and  passing ability.

I watched Texas play a couple of times this year.  He puts the ball on a laser beam.  The last person I saw do that out of the draft was Kidd.

[Diesel]

I like Ford.  I mean, he's a winner.  NCAA player of the year.  75-1 in his HS last 2 seasons.  He's a major player.  BUT there's also Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh.

With Wade, he's going to be a 2.  He plays well, but like JT, he's short.
With Bosh, he's going to be a fine player once he gets some work in the weight room.

[Diesel]

Ford is not some Duke Product.

Ford has the goods.  He is a guy that is able to take over a game by controlling the game.  When Dickau came out last year, there were a lot that said his game is similar to JT's.  Fast, score first PG.  Ford is actually a fast floor general.  
The thing about Draft picks is that there's no guarantees in the draft.  I happen to believe that for 2-3 years, James will look like a Bust.  The rookie of the year next year just might be a guy like Sweetney...  If he goes to a team that has need.  BUT nowadays, teams get players that they expect to be special in 2-3 years.