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[Dolfan23]

jhay610, on Aug 21 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Dol (and Diesel), you keep using marvin's 3pt % from last year as a baseline when that is obviously a skewed statistic. Marv shot 1-10 last year from 3, many of those attempts being longer attempts from half court or better at the end of quarters (except he should have been 2-11, he made one at the end of the 1st qtr of the home Miami game [part I] from beyond half-court that was overturned due to replay, but that's neither here nor there).

Marv showed in his first two years that if he wants to take that shot, he can hit at least 25% of his attempts. If he is working on that shot and is making it a point of emphasis for the coming year, we should look for at least >32% shooting. Otherwise, he shouldn't be taking that shot (we can't have TWO Smooves out their jacking up bricks) and should just stick to his 17 footer.

With his stroke he should be able to hit this mark easily.

That's a fair observation. That 10% number is just so bad that it's difficult to look past it and assume that if he shot more 3pt shots like he did his 1st two seasons he would probably be closer to 25%. I don't think it's impossible that he'll shoot 36% this year but I certainly won't expect it or be mad if he doesn't achieve it.

[Diesel]

jhay610, on Aug 21 2008, 01:49 PM, said:

Dol (and Diesel), you keep using marvin's 3pt % from last year as a baseline when that is obviously a skewed statistic. Marv shot 1-10 last year from 3, many of those attempts being longer attempts from half court or better at the end of quarters (except he should have been 2-11, he made one at the end of the 1st qtr of the home Miami game [part I] from beyond half-court that was overturned due to replay, but that's neither here nor there).

Marv showed in his first two years that if he wants to take that shot, he can hit at least 25% of his attempts. If he is working on that shot and is making it a point of emphasis for the coming year, we should look for at least >32% shooting. Otherwise, he shouldn't be taking that shot (we can't have TWO Smooves out their jacking up bricks) and should just stick to his 17 footer.

With his stroke he should be able to hit this mark easily.

Well it's obvious you agree with me Jhay.
I'm saying that we should not have piss poor expectations of Marvin.  Dol expect that Marvin will be a 26% shooter from 3.  Uhm, hello... that's not good by Sf standards... yet that's what Dol expects.

[Diesel]

Dolfan23, on Aug 21 2008, 01:12 PM, said:

I'm not claiming that Marvin is on the level with Josh as a defender, merely stating that Marvin is not a weak defender as Diesel claims.

Just for grins though, what did Pierce to per minute in each of the other rounds? Also, how did KG do per minute during his playoff series and vs the regular season?

It's asinine to even bring up a comparison of why I am satisfied with Smoove over Marvin.  Smoove makes a difference when he is on the floor.  Marvin does not.  Smoove has "really" improved every year he's been in the league... Marvin has not.  Smoove gives effort on the defensive and offensive side of the ball.  Marvin does not.  What more is there to say?

BTW, how does Evans replace Chillz when he doesn't even play Sf.

Edited by Diesel, 21 August 2008 - 09:27 AM.