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#1 lethalweapon3

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 12:41 PM

Quiz Question: Which one, among the following teams, currently has a larger LOSING MARGIN (points differential) in games LOST?
(i.e., Which of these teams is losing by more points per game?)

Kings
Clippers
Bobcats
Pacers
Wolves
Pistons
Nets
Warriors
Raptors
Wizards
Hawks

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Edited by lethalweapon3, 09 February 2011 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 09 February 2011 - 01:05 PM

Cavs?

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 01:12 PM

Cavs?


The Comic Sans Crew has got the league lead, but there's a particular team that's gaining on them and the Jazz (about 1.3 points behind the Cavs, 0.1 behind the Jazz). Can you guess who it is? :-)

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 01:42 PM

Wolves?

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 01:45 PM

It has to be the Hawks if your only taking into account games lost. We have some real ugly losses.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 01:47 PM

Nets?

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 01:47 PM

Wolves?


The T'Wolves' losses are by a mere 11.0 points per game, compared to our "mystery team" (cough), which has been losing by 13.1 points per game in its defeats.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 02:02 PM

If it's Hawks the reason must be they usually win close games :thumbsdownsmileyanim:

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 02:07 PM

Quiz Question: Which one, among the following teams, currently has a larger LOSING MARGIN (points differential) in games LOST?
(i.e., Which of these teams is losing by more points per game?)

Kings
Clippers
Bobcats
Pacers
Wolves
Pistons
Nets
Warriors
Raptors
Wizards
Hawks

~lw3


Pencils down... the teams were listed in order, from "pretty bad" to "OMFG..."

Kings - 9.3 (95.1 - 104.4) (36 losses)
Clippers -10.4 (94.4 - 104.8) (32 losses)
Bobcats -10.7 (88.1 - 98.8) (29 losses)
Pacers -10.8 (93.1 - 103.9) (28 losses)
Wolves -11.0 (101.3-112.3) (39 losses)
Pistons -11.6 (89.9-101.5) (33 losses)
Nets -11.6 (89.4-101.0) (37 losses)
Warriors -11.8 (98.2-110.0) (28 losses)
Raptors -11.8 (95.4-107.2) (38 losses)
Wizards -12.0 (94.2-106.2) (37 losses)
HAWKS -13.1 (88.4-101.5) (19 losses)

And the only two teams doing worse so far...

Jazz -13.2 (91.3-104.5) (22 losses; includes the Hawks' beatdown in SLC)
Cavaliers -14.4 (93.1-107.5) (44 losses)

Fewest PPG in losses:

1. Bucks 86.3 (Opp 96.0)
2. Celtics 87.4 (Opp 93.4)
3. Bobcats 88.1 (Opp 98.8)
4. HAWKS 88.4 (Opp 101.5)
5. Mavericks 88.9 (Opp 97.3)

More soapbox-grandstanding from me on this in a bit.

~lw3

If it's Hawks the reason must be they usually win close games :thumbsdownsmileyanim:


This looks only at the losses, not the victories.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 04:38 PM

This looks only at the losses, not the victories.

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Yes, I know. Hawks win most of close game, so their loses are usually by significant to large margin.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 04:47 PM

Yes, I know. Hawks win most of close game, so their loses are usually by significant to large margin.

Dense as a rock !

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 05:52 PM

That loss margin among the 8 home game defeats so far is -16.8 (88.5 - 105.3). I don't have time to compare with everyone in the league, but just looking at the sad-sack Cavs, their differential in 17 home game defeats is -11.0 (94.8-105.8).
Time to get my flog on...

There are some NBA organizations who can endure a handful of blowout losses, even at home, or perhaps on the road before a national audience.

The Atlanta Hawks are not one of those teams.

This is the sole returning NBA playoff team that is NOT among the top 20 in home percentage attendance. The team whose relative ranking among NBA clubs for attendance has slid to 25th (down from 18th) after slowly climbing every year since 2006.

This is the team with multiple All-Stars and Almost-Stars that, individually, can not fill any tier of seating in an arena, at least not anymore. Blake's 19-32 Clippers, Nash's 24-25 Suns, and Amar'e's 26-24 Knicks are bigger draws in this town than the 33-19 Hawks.

This is a team who brands its arena as The Highlight Factory, whose leading scorer's "highlights" generally involve teardrops and turnarounds in traffic, whose flashiest player, now seven years removed from a Slam Dunk title, has become enamored with 20-foot jumpshots.

This is a team almost one year removed from playoff blowout performances so epically bad that they eclipsed their prior year's second-round drubbings, and the road playoff drubbings from the year before that.

This is the team that, when forced to discuss them solely because of their relative record, provokes faces on national media members worthy of laxative commercials. "C'mon, do we have to talk about the Hawks? Really?"

This is a team whose dispirited ownership only seems to make headlines when they further entomb themselves in lawsuits and inertia.

This is a team that strings along a flawed head coach on cheap contracts, and lets him go only to promote the assistant sitting next to him for even less money. When he was promoted, and when the so-called 'core' was brought back in its entirety, this was all presented under a Kool-Aid sale suggesting, with new systems and philosophies in place, blowout basketball and mail-it-in efforts would be mere notions of the past.

This is the team that is the only American pro franchise (MLB-NFL-NHL-NBA) around for at least the last 40 years that has not given its fans a conference final in the past four decades.

Altogether, it takes an awful lot of trust to get thousands of people to stop in on a lousy-weather mid-week night to see the Atlanta Hawks. When a low-profile team like Philly (or New Orleans. or Milwaukee) comes in, and their first-quarter scoring equals the Hawks' effort for the entire first half, that's hundreds more people who have made a mental note never to darken Philips Arena's door again. Other teams can shrug this off. Not this one.

Without splashy maneuvers, high-profile players, and risk-taking management, this is a team that needs to build consumer confidence, rather than erode it, one game at a time.

~lw3

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 09:16 PM

Dense as a rock !



Uhmmm, I believe Tremor is not a native English speaker. If you look under his username, you will find he lists his location as being Poland.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 10:02 PM

Lethal, I won't quote your entire recent post, but I read all of it...and it was the unvarnished truth.

Plus Freaking One.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 11:05 PM

I could hear "America the Beautiful" in the background while reading that post.
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