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[coachx]

http://www.draftexpr...p-100-ProspectsAnthony Davis
Andre Drummond
Perry Jones
Tyler Zeller
Meyers Leonard
Patrick Young
Arnett Moultrie
Festus Ezeli

I cannot remember a draft with 7 legitimate 1st round center prospects.

2 or 3 of those guys should still be around when we pick (probably Moultrie and Ezeli). I'd love to get either one.

[warcore]

not all of those are centers (Jones, Multrie)

[coachx]

 warcore, on 25 January 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

not all of those are centers (Jones, Multrie)

Very true. Jones is a bit soft for my taste. The undersized Ratliff, for Mizz, simply dominated him last weekend and made Jones look soft. Ratliff has a Dennis Rodman thing going on. Ratliff's website rankings of 50 are way off. He will end up being a 1st round pick.

Jones will not be available in the 20's any way but Multrie could be (or is at least projected to be for now). I see Multrie playing significant minutes at center in the NBA. Being an SEC fan I have seen him take the SEC stage by storm this year. I love his energy and quick hops for a guy with his length. He has all the tools to develop a offensive post game one day.

I realy like both Multrie and the more traditional center,Ezeli, as possibilities for capable big men in the 20's.
Unlike most years, there will be some good competition in the SEC this year among big men. Local Hawks fans should see plenty of tape of them facing solid competition:
Davis - Kentuckly
Young - Florida
Multrie - Miss St.
Ezeli - Vandy
Then you have every Zeller game televised as well since he plays for UNC.

Edited by coachx, 26 January 2012 - 11:04 AM.

[Supporter]

I want patric young but I heard he ain't goin in the draft. He's a solid rebounder and probably the best defender out of davis

[coachx]

 Supporter, on 29 January 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

I want patric young but I heard he ain't goin in the draft. He's a solid rebounder and probably the best defender out of davis

Young is a flat out beast. He is very raw but very physical and athletic. He is a high energy player for sure that people call "glue" pieces.

I got to see the Florida / Miss St game last weekend.
Miss St. is a huge team with 300 pound Sidney at center beside the 6'11'' Moultrie. Florida is big too but they have a finess big (Murphy) who was able to take Moultrie away from the basket and neutralize him a bit more then when he gets to play defense in the paint. Moultie showed he not comfortable defending the perimeter.

[coachx]

We can cross Moultrie off the list.............he is a top 10 pick for sure.............draft projection sites are just late to the party.

[coachx]

Add Fab Melo to the list since he is now healthy and playing well. Limited offensive upside but an excellent finisher who's strength is protecting the rim. Melo will have a togh tranistion due to Syracuse playing so much zone defense and not having to worry about a 3 second call when on defense but his length is the pro-type for NBA centers.

I'd be thrilled with Melo or Ezeli in the 20's. Ezeli will be more ready to produce right away and has a more developed offensive post game.

[Walter]

 coachx, on 26 January 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

I realy like both Multrie and the more traditional center,Ezeli, as possibilities for capable big men in the 20's.
Unlike most years, there will be some good competition in the SEC this year among big men. Local Hawks fans should see plenty of tape of them facing solid competition:
Davis - Kentuckly
Young - Florida
Multrie - Miss St.
Ezeli - Vandy
Then you have every Zeller game televised as well since he plays for UNC.

Of course I like Davis the most, but Young would be my next.  Unfortunately, he's not a center IMO.  

About UNC Zeller, his brother Cody at Indy is better.  In fact, if Young stays next year may be as good or better a big man class as this one.  This video is a little taste of both Adams and Noel...

http://www.nbadraft....rs/steven-adams

W

[Supporter]

 Walter, on 16 March 2012 - 08:28 AM, said:

Of course I like Davis the most, but Young would be my next.  Unfortunately, he's not a center IMO.  

About UNC Zeller, his brother Cody at Indy is better.  In fact, if Young stays next year may be as good or better a big man class as this one.  This video is a little taste of both Adams and Noel...

http://www.nbadraft....rs/steven-adams

W

They have us taking Patric in their 2013 mock draft. I don't expect him to fall that far and for us to be that fortunate.....sigh

[sturt]

Makes you wonder if we wouldn't have been best served by dealing Hinrich for a 1st round pick from anyone, even someone picking behind us, so that we could package two 1st rounders to another team and move up. (?)

[coachx]

 sturt, on 18 March 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

Makes you wonder if we wouldn't have been best served by dealing Hinrich for a 1st round pick from anyone, even someone picking behind us, so that we could package two 1st rounders to another team and move up. (?)

I don't think that was even possibility with Hinrich being an expiring contract.

However, if it was possible I would forfit wins this year to both better our own pick and get an additional 1st rounder by dealing Hinrich. In most drafts there is little value after pick 20 but this draft class is an exception if the early entry candidates do indeed turn pro.

 coachx, on 06 February 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

We can cross Moultrie off the list.............he is a top 10 pick for sure.............draft projection sites are just late to the party.

Miss St was hot and so was Moultrie. However, Moultrie is back in play after the team collapse of Miss St.
Moultrie disspapeard down the stretch, as did the majority of the team. Their long time coach even got fired after having built up an excellent basketball program.

Man......I'm sticking to my original guns. Moultrie or Ezeli would be excellent finds in the 20's or late teens of round 1. I cannot recall a draft where 6'11'' guys, as good as either of these 2, were available this late in Round 1. I compare Moultrie to a slightly longer version of Drew Gooden. I compare Ezeli to a young and athletic version of Haywood.

I know we need a wing too but wings are a dime dozen. We need to take a risk on big guys if they are still on the board.

Edited by coachx, 20 March 2012 - 11:15 AM.

[Walter]

There is a reason teams are willing to spend a lot of money in order to essentially buy a late 1st rd pick this year.  The draft is deep and deep in big men.  One can be had in the 20s.  

We should have traded Hinrich for a first, but current ownership and leadership are too focus upon mediocrity over moving on up.  If we had far seeking ownership that wasn't about "winning" rather than legitimately competing in order to sell the team and leadership who is fighting to save their job with 2 yr, cheap contracts, we'd have a much better chance at moves that were designed to help our future.  Trading picks and failing to trade for picks when opportunities are present just ain't cutting it now or (especially) for the future.

W

[KB21]

Keep in mind that big men in the basketball draft are similar to quarterbacks in the football draft.  They tend to get overdrafted because of the dearth of them in the league.  Considering where Atlanta is going to be picking, it is very possible that all of the big men you guys like will be off the board.

[KB21]

OK.  I think Anthony Davis is the clear cut top prospect out there.  At 6'10", he is very skilled.  His body has not filled out yet.  He's got broad shoulders and long, lanky arms.  I think he will get quite a bit bigger once he is in the NBA.  This guy could be another Dwight Howard.  He's got the same lanky build that Dwight had coming out of high school.

[coachx]

 KB21, on 31 March 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

OK.  I think Anthony Davis is the clear cut top prospect out there.  At 6'10", he is very skilled.  His body has not filled out yet.  He's got broad shoulders and long, lanky arms.  I think he will get quite a bit bigger once he is in the NBA.  This guy could be another Dwight Howard.  He's got the same lanky build that Dwight had coming out of high school.

The Dwight comparisons are very fair.

Davis can do one thing Howard cannot. He can face up players and take them off the dribble. Its hard to believe he was 6'4'' as a HS junior. B/c of that late growth spirt he has exceptional ball handling skills for his size. The thing I like most about Davis (except for his out of this world physical talent) is his attitude and demeanor. The kid is as humble and coachable as they come.......and that similar demeanor is where the Tim Duncan comparisons come in to play (of course he is lacking the polished post skills but that can still be developed).

Michael Jordan is praying to win this lottery. They have a 25% shot at winning it but a 75% chance of losing it. There are some solid consolation prizes out there but Davis is without a doubt the cream of the crop.