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#1 Diesel

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 04:32 PM

Trade Reef and our lottery bound first rounder (if it's not top 3) this year to Toronto for Vince Carter and Bosh?


In the end, we would be looking at:

JT/DD
Carter/Hansen
Jax/Diaw
Bosh/Hendu
Theo/Nazr

of the people with Guaranteed Contracts.

#2 KB21

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Posted 18 January 2004 - 04:46 PM

No.

Vince Carter is showing that he can't play an entire season without getting hurt at some point.  As great as he is when healthy, he's not doing the Raptors a bit of good by being on the injured list year after year.

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 05:15 AM

yes... Vince Carter is "half man, half injured" (didnt barkley say this?)....

if he was still the old "half man, half amazing" for the entire season, i would do it.

hard call tho...

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 01:41 PM

Atlanta trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.5 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 36.0 minutes)
  SF Stephen Jackson (13.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 33.8 minutes)
Atlanta receives: SF Vince Carter (21.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.6 apg in 36.6 minutes)
  PF Chris Bosh (10.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 32.8 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.9 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and +0.5 apg.
Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (21.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.6 apg in 36.6 minutes)
  PF Chris Bosh (10.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 32.8 minutes)
Toronto receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (19.5 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 2.5 apg in 41 games)
  SF Stephen Jackson (13.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 39 games)
Change in team outlook: +0.9 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Added to this deal is a conditional 1st from us (Protected to 18 for 3 years, then 10 then 3 then unprotected).


The reasons I would do this deal are:

Reason 1

Vince Carter is a draw especially here in Atlanta.  He brings people to remember Nique.  I understand that he's injured a lot BUT that's why he can be traded for in the first place.  I think he's a great draw and if we are rebuilding, he's just what we need at SG.  He's a superstar who can draw maybe another FA to Atlanta.

  Reason 2

Bosh is a star in the making. He doesn't have the offense yet, but he does have the defense.  He's a great match to play beside Theo.  Plus his rookie contract is great.  It would allow us to keep him for a number of years at a low price.


The other half of the plan...

Trade JT/Diaw in the off season for a PG who can run the offense and a Sf who can score/rebound.  Keep Theo, bring in a defensive minded Coach and play strong defense with Scoring coming for the 2/3 spots.

Why would Toronto do it?

Reef.
Reef gives them a player who can put up 20/10 in their system.  Their new offense would be:]

AW/Rose/Marshall/Reef/Moiso.

In the off season, Toronto will be looking for a C.  I think they want the Russian.  IF we are in position to get him, maybe we give him up or maybe we work out a clause in that first rounder where we can swap protected pick for their pick and be out of the deal.

Any way though....  I like what it does for us...

Even if Carter never gives us a full season...  Getting him and getting Bosh would be a draw for Hawks fans, media, and free agents.

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Posted 19 January 2004 - 07:47 PM

I think I would do it. Vince seems to doing better this year with his injuries, and i think bosh can turn into a better overall player than reef, mainly because reef lacks athleticism to be a top flight player.

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Posted 20 January 2004 - 12:53 AM

but i really doubt that TORONTO would do that...

no chance Raptors do it...

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Posted 20 January 2004 - 10:02 AM

we'd still have the jt problem at pg....

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Posted 20 January 2004 - 10:24 AM

Heck I'd do it for JRose and Bosch(if our pick is top3 protected), Bosch is going to be one helluva player in this league.



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