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Posted 22 June 2003 - 07:40 AM

IF   And that's a big IF, Hawks draft another guard, don't
make any major trades, or even if they do, would they
consider a trade of Dickau for Dunleavy?

Seems that neither team is really excited with what they
have.  Rookies that didn't become stars their first year
on the floor in the N.B.A.

Someone on the Hawk's roster from last season must go.
We have a draft pick in the first round.  DerMarr is
expected to return.  This makes two slots out of twelve.
This year's draft looks deep and Hawks probably will have
a pretty good player available in round #2.

If every N.B.A. team gains two new players in this year's
draft, one from each round, that means there will only be
ten slots on each team to fill.  

Some of last year's players will retire.  That opens up a
position each time one retires, but it looks like there will
be a real fight for the remaining positions.  We know all
the star players have no real worries.  They will have many
teams after their talents.

That leaves all the rest, fighting for a spot.  The more
players from the draft that make an N.B.A. team, the fewer
openings there will be left for all the other players {Non
starters} which should make things real interesting when
they start setting the rosters for the opening of the
season.  After all, only a limited number will make it.

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 07:57 AM

I'm still uncertain about Ford's ability to defend in the NBA.  If we are going to trade JT and keep Big Dog, SAR, I at least want to surround those two with good defenders.  I don't think Ford fits into that category.

If I got the 4th pick, I'd probably use it on Chris Bosh regardless.

If I were looking for a point guard in this draft, the one I'd look to get is Marcus Banks.  I feel he'll step right in and be able to defend in the NBA.

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 10:19 AM

and that's really going to be what makes him special, if he becomes something special, his 6th sense. I say this mostly because I don't know, I haven't seen him play enough...and most of the highlights and footage I've seen have been of his drives to the basket...but I'll say this - if he has to rely too much on his ability to get to the basket, drive and dish, etc...then he's a gonner. He simply can't do what he did in college in the NBA, not against guys on the inside like Wallace, PJ Brown, the list goes on and on...but the bigger guys will crush him ~ the man couldn't even get up 185 once

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 11:11 AM

This kid is going to be a very good player.  He showed some signs last year of some real talent and with the right amount of playing time and seasoning I think he will easily be able to fill a Mike Miller type of role.  

Same with Dickau.  He was injured much of last year and also he is a PG that is going to take some time to learn how to run an NBA team and play at NBA speed.  [censored] just look at how much Nash bounced around before he finally learned how to be an NBA PG.  Dickau has that type of ability and I dont believe the team is ready to give up on that.  As far as him being compared to Ford, well thats not even a comparison I believe.  While Ford isnt a very big or strong guy, he is probably the fastest on the court player to come out in a long long time.  I dont see him having a problem breaking anyone of the PGs down off of the dribble and getting to the basket.  Like someone else mentioned though, he will have to learn to protect himself from getting beaten up in the paint though.  Still, Ford is a MUCH MUCH more natural PG than Dickau or JT or most of the PGs in the NBA and has a real flair for setting his teammates up for open looks. Just watch how bad Texas will be this year without Ford.  They wont even be half as good without him.  He has the ability to make everyone on the floor better and thats just what the Hawks need.  

For me it would be very hard to pass up on Bosh with that 4th pick, but if we traded JT to get that pick then we absolutely have to get a PG out of the draft that can start immediately and Ford is the only one who I feel can do that.  Dickau definitely isnt ready to start and we dont have enough FA money to sign someone, unless we could get Kenny Anderson for the mid level.  Also, with Bosh this is a guy who needs to start playing ASAP so he can learn the NBA game and where are we going to be able to find time for him?  I think he should start right away, so if we drafted him we would either need to move Dog or Reef.  Since I think that Reef is more suited to play PF and thats where Bosh needs to play, I would say that we should move Reef.  Maybe we can trade Reef to the Heat for Jones and the #5 pick also.  That would leave us looking like this:

Ford/Dickau
Jones/Mo Pete/DJ
Dog/Jeffries/Crawford
Bosh/Hendu
Theo/Nazr

That would be our 12 man roster.  We would be very young throughout most of our roster, but having 3 veteran presences starting should help that.  Dog would become the first option and that may actually help him to become an All-Star player again.

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 11:26 AM

I'd do it but I don't think I could pass up on Chris Bosh. Maybe it's because I'm a GT fan, but I just love the ability and potential of this guy. Than maybe a Grob for Stoudamire or something. Grab Pavlovic/Diaw/Howard at #21

Stoudamire/Dickau
Peterson/???
Pavlovic/Jefferies
SAR/Bosh/Hendu
Theo/Nazr

....or maybe even trade SAR for an all-star caliber SF and start Hendu at PF until Bosh is ready.

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 02:53 PM

Toronto has been taking offers like Rasheed Wallace, you think they want Jason Terry? .... not.

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Posted 22 June 2003 - 03:54 PM

Not that I would necessarily trade JT for TJ but It's not like JT was able to stop people from beating him one on one and penetrating.  He is definitely no Mookie.  People badmouth Cassell but Sam I AM absolutely DESTROYS JT when they match up man to man.  Several other PGs do too.  JT's value is in the problems that he cause for the other team's D, not in anything he does on D.



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