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Challenge for Diesel

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Diesel, I am officially requesting that lay down the stats (ppg, rpg, per, ??) whatever that you would define as being a successful season for Marvin. The reason I am asking this is because I'd hate to see Marvin come out and get x/x next year and have you still call him a bust. So here it is D, your chance to prove that you aren't blindly hating on Marvin by giving him a measurable goal to achieve.

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Diesel, I am officially requesting that lay down the stats (ppg, rpg, per, ??) whatever that you would define as being a successful season for Marvin. The reason I am asking this is because I'd hate to see Marvin come out and get x/x next year and have you still call him a bust. So here it is D, your chance to prove that you aren't blindly hating on Marvin by giving him a measurable goal to achieve.

Amen, again I say Amen.

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I'll guess his answer will be 30.8ppg, 12.5rpg and 11.4apg.

So you assume Diesel will actually take the challenge? I don't think he will since that will force him to define the limits of his hatred of Marvin and I'm just not sure he's ready to accept that just yet.

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So you assume Diesel will actually take the challenge? I don't think he will since that will force him to define the limits of his hatred of Marvin and I'm just not sure he's ready to accept that just yet.

Let him continue to churn out Marvin bust threads! He and the rest of the lynch mob can continue to hate on Marvin. They all will be called out if Marvin turns the corner this season.

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if Marvin turns the corner this season.

:sad:

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I don't think statistics are the end all and be all... I look at impact... and Marvin makes no impact.

However, if it will give us a standard...

I will use Luol Deng. In his fourth year, he had a down year. His team had a down year. However, these are the terms:

1. Like Deng, Marvin should be the third option on this team.

Marvin's statline should follow this:

Season ▾ Age Tm Lg G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS

2007-08 22 CHI NBA 63 59 33.8 6.8 14.2 .479 0.1 0.3 .364 3.2 4.2 .770 2.2 4.1 6.3 2.5 0.9 0.5 1.9 1.9 17.0

That's 17.0 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 2.5apg 47.9% from the field and 36.4% from three.

If Luol Deng (who is not an allstar Sf and had a down year in his fourth season) can manage this... Then a Marvin Williams who is healthy and looking to cash in on his contract should be able to do the same! Not to mention Marvin was picked ahead of Paul and Deron... There must have been a reason.

Challenge Accepted!

Edited by Diesel

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That's 17.0 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 2.5apg 47.9% from the field and 36.4% from three.

Glad to see that you have accepted the challenge. Other than asking Marvin to all of the sudden shoot the 3 almost as well as JJ being highly unrealistic I would say that those numbers are very fair.

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I agree. I was surprised Big D didn't want 25/10/10! Way to go D...

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