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[Walter]

With Hinrich injured our NEEDS may have just leap-frogged a shot at a "potential superstar" as the primary goal of any trade.  Financially, we need to find "cheaper" talent and it wouldn't hurt to alter our team's skill set a little while becoming overall more talented.  

I think a team we shouldn't overlook trying to trade with would be Indiana.  

Think, Brandon Rush, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, George Hill vs Collison

Consider:  
Al Horford and MW for Granger and Hibbert.  
Al Horford and MW for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
ZaZa and JS for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)

***Hibbert is one of the few centers I can see pairing JS (even the slimmer version) with at Pf/C.  

Indy has some inexpensive talent (so does Minny).  We need to cut expenses or spread the spending over more aspects of the team while hopefully coming up with more talent and expanding our skill sets.  This doesn't get us a superstar but trading with Indy can get us alot of what we need.  

W

Just a thought.  What does anyone think of a Joe Johnson and future 1st for a Love, Wesley Johnson trade?  I might exchange Love for Derrick Williams and a 1st.  Throw ins would be required.  

Teague/Hinrich
Wesley Johnson
JS/MW
Love/JS
Horford/ZaZa/Twin

Edited by Walter, 03 December 2011 - 08:28 AM.

[xhawk]

Looking at these trades:

Al Horford and MW for Granger and Hibbert.
This has an advantage for Atlanta--Granger is a special player.  I actually like him better than Carmelo.

Al Horford and MW for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
This is an advantage for Indiana.  Horford is the best player in the bunch.

ZaZa and JS for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
This is a slight advantage for Indiana.  JS and Zaza both have pretty good contracts.  I also don't know if Hibbert can replace Josh's blocks, low-post scoring and excitement.  I've had not watched him enough.

[Walter]

xhawk, on 04 December 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

Al Horford and MW for Granger and Hibbert.
This has an advantage for Atlanta--Granger is a special player.  I actually like him better than Carmelo.

I agree it's "advantage Hawks" but Indy has Paul George to play the Sf position and has never seemed too enamored by Granger.  Horford is better than Hibbert but Hibbert fits our needs with JS better than Horford IMO.

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Al Horford and MW for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
This is an advantage for Indiana.  Horford is the best player in the bunch.

Financially it is an advantage for the Hawks, hands down, and we fill out our roster with some upside.  No more "near-amnesty-worth" off back surgery players.  Young, healthy, players with upside, at positions of need, who compliment our existing players well, and who have skill sets we desperately need.  

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ZaZa and JS for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
This is a slight advantage for Indiana.  JS and Zaza both have pretty good contracts.  I also don't know if Hibbert can replace Josh's blocks, low-post scoring and excitement.  I've had not watched him enough.

Hibbert gets about 2 blocks a 30 min game but simply we would be playing a different defensive system.  We would defend with size, simply clogging up the middle with hibbert and horford rather than backside blocks, while presumably rebounding more efficiently.  I think for Indy to trade Hibbert they have to get a decent (ZaZa) if not better (Horford) center back.  This is my least favorite deal of the 3 because it doesn't remove MW's contract and is less financially advantageous for that reason.

[sturt]

Do I understand correctly that the sign-and-trade thing... at one point in danger of getting eliminated... ended up pretty much intact, at least for non-taxpayers?

If so, W might just be on to something here... the rumor mill has a lot of chatter going on b/t IND and Crawford... and so, that would seem to present yet another angle on all of this. The same stories talking about Crawford are talking about Gasol, btw... Marc, that is.

[nbasuperstar40]

xhawk, on 04 December 2011 - 12:43 AM, said:

Looking at these trades:

Al Horford and MW for Granger and Hibbert.
This has an advantage for Atlanta--Granger is a special player.  I actually like him better than Carmelo.

Al Horford and MW for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
This is an advantage for Indiana.  Horford is the best player in the bunch.

ZaZa and JS for Hibbert, Paul George, Hansbrough, and Posey (expiring)
This is a slight advantage for Indiana.  JS and Zaza both have pretty good contracts.  I also don't know if Hibbert can replace Josh's blocks, low-post scoring and excitement.  I've had not watched him enough.

I wouldn't trade Horford but Hibbert and Granger would be a good value but Indy wouldn't do it. Zaza and JS for Hibbert and George is also good value but Indy wouldn't do it. The Horford for Hibbert and George is a bad deal for us. I'll pass.

[nbasuperstar40]

Hibbert is overrated here. That's obvious. What could he give us that we need more than Horford or Smith?

[sturt]

With the Bulls now said to be talking a SNT for Crawford, seems this could get interesting if Pacers are equally interested. We, at least, could come out of this with something to show for Crawford, and perhaps could add Smoove in a deal that would both return some talent plus create some cap space.

[Walter]

nbasuperstar40, on 04 December 2011 - 03:59 PM, said:

Hibbert is overrated here. That's obvious. What could he give us that we need more than Horford or Smith?

A quality, true center.  The various deals for the most part get us either more or cheaper talent with upside.  

Having said that, I'm a little more interested in Paul.  I think that after the season-long mess with Denver and Anthony and the shortened season, NO may be more willing to deal now rather than later.  

W