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[GameTime]

“Hopefully, I’m here,” he said. “I like it here. I like the guys. That’s what I love most about it. I like the guys in this locker room. But at the same time, I still can play. No doubt in my mind.

This is profound.

[willthepureshooter]

Say what? This is Marvin's fault? Marvin who came alive and put up 8points in the 3rd and was active yet didn't see the game again for the last two minutes of the 3rd and the entire 4th? Nope, this is all on Drew. Overextended Teague who was pure horse dung, was afraid to use Zaza again after 7 minutes in the 3rd because he had 4 fouls and felt that Vlad with his inability to hit the 3 or rebound would have been a better option than bringing back Zaza, using Ivan or HEY! using that defensive C we're supposed to be working out on a 10 day on Aldridge. This is all Drew and nothing to do with any individual player for why Tracy didn't play.

Marvins trash! That's the plain truth and LD refuses to bench his *ss for some odd reason. It takes away from the first teams chemistry, and now teammates are starting to notice and speak about it. Willie Green has outplayed Marvin for the past ten games but Drew never makes a change. So what do we do Macecase, keep losing because we believe one day Marvin will get it? I'm tired of watching him shoot airballs and get blocked driving to the hole at 6'9.

[Watchman]

Tmac has a good reason to be pissed! Drew has some type of love attraction with Marvin. He refuses to demote or bench him when he's obviously not contributing to the team as though he should. I bet other players are feeling the same way but are too scared to say anything. Larry seems as though he doesn't have a clue. Ivan gets pulled, Willie gets pulled when he's hot, Teague gets pulled for stupid reasons(Phoenix), Radmanovich gets pulled when he's hot, and Pargo got buried on the bench once the "great white hope" came back from injury. I'm tired of seeing Drews bullsh*t too.

Do we have to put up with this bigot's crap?

[MaceCase]

Does Tracy have a history of doing things like this? I don't know. If he doesn't, then I think it's a sign that there is a rift between the coaches and players. It would definitely explain the erratic and passionless play our Hawks have displayed this year so far.

He has a long history of being a Prima Donna. He wanted out of Toronto which is fine, he was young and wanted to get paid closer to home.

He bitched about getting help in Orlando which is fine because Grant Hill was eating all of their cap. He bitched when they traded his lover in Mike Miller, admitted he quit on the team and then the final straw for him was when they drafted Dwight over Okafor....Then he demanded an extension and a trade.

In Houston all was fine till he picked up a few injuries and became his own doctor telling the team when he'd be back. Had that true *ss hole moment with the All Star game in post Katrina New Orleans where he refused to play because he feared for his life. Apparently he felt that the city was a post apocalyptic world filled with roving sea mutants. Bitched that the team got better without him and his selfish attitude was being made out to be the scapegoat, once when there were rampant rumors he'd get traded because of the attitude he announced he was taking it upon his own volition to get microfracture surgery on the eve of the trade deadline. Never dedicated himself to rehab until contract year when Adelman refused to play him so finally traded to NY.

Felt in NY he wasn't getting the minutes or the chance to show the real TMac that had rehabbed back to pre microfracture form (you'll hear or read this meme at least 40 times over the next 3 years). Became a free agent, practically proclaimed himself the missing link to a Chicago championship (you'll also hear this meme 40 times over the next two years), Chicago passed over him 40 times, finally settled into Detroit.

Was a good citizen in Detroit for the most part.....until he helped orchestrate the mutiny against Kuester and the practice walkouts and refusal to enter games. Became free agent, claimed best shape ever and missing link to Chicago making the Finals or Heat winning it......ends up in Atlanta. Good citizen until minutes now being an issue for him.


To summarize, yes, he has a history of actions like this. I came up with all of this just off the top of my head and memory....

[MaceCase]

Marvins trash! That's the plain truth and LD refuses to bench his *ss for some odd reason. It takes away from the first teams chemistry, and now teammates are starting to notice and speak about it. Willie Green has outplayed Marvin for the past ten games but Drew never makes a change. So what do we do Macecase, keep losing because we believe one day Marvin will get it? I'm tired of watching him shoot airballs and get blocked driving to the hole at 6'9.

And Marvin has outplayed TMac, your point? Perhaps you'll notice that Willie is now the first off the bench with Joe moving to the 3, so really, address all of your erudite commentary for someone else who actually gives a f*** about your ramblings.

[willthepureshooter]

Do we have to put up with this bigot's crap?

Man I'm not being a bigot at all just using that as a metaphor. I apologize if I offended you man. I'm not that type of person at all.

And Marvin has outplayed TMac, your point? Perhaps you'll notice that Willie is now the first off the bench with Joe moving to the 3, so really, address all of your erudite commentary for someone else who actually gives a f*** about your ramblings.

Yeah, do you know how many games Tmac has missed? Obviously you're rambling and defending a player that sucks and has no trade value. No one wants him. If they were both free agents, I bet Tmac would be the first one with offers. It's the truth.

[HawksFan87]

Well he certainly won't be getting much playing time now lol.. But i've been saying since the season started that drew's subbing patterns suck. Hinrich has had one good game since he came back, yet drew insists on bringing him in even if teague is hot. Its annoying, and I can understand why some players may be upset by it.

[capstone21]

He needs to be professional and keep things like this behind closed doors. Anyway, he should be playing 15 - 25 minutes every night that he is available ... not 5 minutes. He is still a quality player and an important part of our bench. I think part of his sitting is the play of Willie Green lately.

[hawksfanatic]

Wasn't there an interview last year about a former Hawk who laughed when asked a question about LD's preparation? I think the response was something like "what preparation? Guy has the worst gameplans ever".

[willthepureshooter]

Wasn't there an interview last year about a former Hawk who laughed when asked a question about LD's preparation? I think the response was something like "what preparation? Guy has the worst gameplans ever".

#classic

[frankthetank966]

Start TMac next game see how he handles the pressure. Let him put his game where his mouth is.

[hawkrule152]

If some of you think he shouldnt be opening his mouth you are all crazy. It is about time somebody stood up to LD. Its absurd he only played 4 minutes last night! He can help this team in so many different ways.. especially since kirk and teague havent been producing, let him play a little PG. He knows how to distribute and get ppl to their hot spots. LD isnt a good coach plain and simple.

[hawksfanatic]

Wasn't there an interview last year about a former Hawk who laughed when asked a question about LD's preparation? I think the response was something like "what preparation? Guy has the worst gameplans ever".

Found what I was referring to, not sure how much stock to put into the quote/article:

The Hawks , losers of 14 of 21 games entering this weekend and with eight home losses since Feb. 8, are on the fast-track to getting swept out of the playoffs. What's the problem? One veteran player called rookie head coach Larry Drew's preparation and attention to detail "a (bleeping) joke." Drew also hasn't been able to rein in Josh Smith and get him to stop jacking up jumpers.

Read more: http://www.nydailyne...0#ixzz1mr1iIoNT

Is NY Daily News at all respectable? Or Mitch Lawrence?

Edited by hawksfanatic, 19 February 2012 - 01:46 PM.

[Wurider05]

I have to agree. LD's substitution patterns have been horrible all season. We talk about this on the chat every game. It just kills me how Marvin starts off hot and gets benched while JJ is 1 for 7 and Smoove is 1-5. Marv probably said f*ck it. It's like he doesn't believe in riding the hot hand unless its Joe Johnson or Smoove.


LD is in over his head. He nis forced to kiss *ss because some of the players (mainly Smoove) are the ones that got his his job. They don't respect his authority and that player that doesn't complain (Marvin) becomes the whipping boy.

Edited by Wurider05, 19 February 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[MaceCase]

It's not the Times but miles above the Post so you can trust them.....just not with your life, obviously.
That and the fact, why lie about the Hawks? We practically create better stories than most guys could dream up.