Pretty good? As compared to what Hawks off season in recent memory? Considering all the players Sund needed to address, I think this off season was great. Just going through what we've been going through for a decade, in comparison, this off season was awesome. Anyway, I think Joe Smith addressed the veteran grit you mentioned. With Bibby and Old Joe, we have some guys with experience. Added to that, we have JJ, who's no spring chicken...who's been here. Smoove is young, but not young as far as time in the league, and time with one team. Im not suggesting Joe, or Smoove, needs to step up as leader....my point is these young guys aren't young anymore. They shouldn't need as much vet presence for motivation.