Sothron

May 13

8 minutes ago, Mikey said:

We will not be adding three rookies in one of the worst draft classes lol.

I'm not advocating it. I am saying if they decide to blow it up this is the kind of situation that is almost ideal for it.

May 13

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Just another reason for Ressler to not spend to put a competitive team on the floor. Selling hope with another rebuild to the fan base. It's fool's gold. Wether we pick at 1, 3 7, or 10 wasn't going to be a drastic change. As @marco102 pointed out, what we do with the current players on the roster matters more than the pick.

I think I have been very clear on my feelings of Tony Ressler. He should sell the team if he is not going to pay the LT. This "manna from heaven" is going to show we either pay the LT to boost the team around the # pick and Trae...or he's so cheap he uses this as the jump start to a rebuild...confirming he will never pay the LT.

May 13

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I like Reed Sheppard a lot more than Robert Dillingham. Maybe Clingan is at 4 and we take him.

Sarr, Clingan, and Sheppard

Next year, get Harper, and couple others with the Lakers and Kings pick.

If we were to do that...I would be excited beyond belief for this team in the long term. Short term, yes, losing Trae will hurt but LONG TERM if those guys play to what they can be...we could be talking titles here.

May 13

1 minute ago, Carmine said:

There are only a handful of these "KG" lite types, they don't grow on trees. To opt for the old guard in a prospect like Clingan over Sarr is laughable. It's unlikely Clingan even is a top 5 pick, probably 6 - 10 range.

My Twolf source directly compared Sarr to KG for this generation. They believe no matter what his offense develops having a truly elite defensive player would stop so much of the bleeding in our defense. We got backdoor to death for the last three seasons

May 13

2 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Get the #1 pick...let's Tank????

I can't man. ..I just can't. Sigh!

It's closer to being a reality than you might think.

Trae always tweets about everything Hawks...and he says nothing about the team getting the #1 pick out of literal nowhere. That is telling.

May 13

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

But I thought this draft was horrible?

We're going to trade the #1 for #4 and #8, in a bad draft?

That's definitely grounds for Landry to be fired. And almost a legit reason for fans to find another team to root for.

It is a bad draft IMO because there's no clear cut #1 pick that has superstar potential. I love Reed Sheppard. Love that kid. If we moved Trae and did a true rebuild this is the exact kind of perfect scenario: we have the #1 pick, take Sarr, take Reed Sheppard to play PG and get the best wing defender at 8 or hell take Clingan if he's there and we can just go ham on folks with size in a rebuild scenario.

May 13

This is the most balanced scouting appraisal I've heard yet of Alex Sarr, both pros and cons. Worth a listen:

May 13

5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

it makes no sense to keep Trae with Sarr. Zero sense.

I can see sad faces in Atlanta went Trae is moved.

Trae for 4, 8, our picks back could be...well, I'll just say it: that would be the best way to rebuild. Sarr, Reed Sheppard and a wing player at 8. Trade DJM for picks as well. You have three rookies plus Jalen/Kobe/OO as a new core.

May 13

My Twolf source reached out a little bit ago:

"Congrats on Alex Sarr. He's going to do wonders there either with Trae or as the face of a rebuild."

May 13

Sarr doesn't screen well. He is a lob threat but doesn't roll hard to the basket. He seems more hesitant on offense in terms of physical play than he does on defense. He does box out on defense for rebounds.

He has excellent rim protection and shot blocking instincts. His shooting needs work

If we draft him I will be fine with it. He has the most upside.

May 13

First serious update post lottery:

Team's draft board before the lottery drawing was the two French kids and Clingan in that order. Obviously no one in the FO seriously thought we would win the lottery with such poor odds.

When Landry in his post drawing media spot said he wasn't even thinking about a trade, just focusing on homework on the pick, that was not GM talk. It was real. Multiple teams in the NBA have called or reached out just to offer congrats to our FO because of the historic nature of the Hawks *finally* winning the lottery.

The workouts and team interviews are going to play a huge role in who they finally select at #1. I was told that unless another team blows them away the Hawks are absolutely keeping the pick. Both Resslers feel this is "manna from Heaven" to fix the roster and keep Trae's interest in staying here.

All the top prospects are so close together I was told one really strong interview or work out could be the deciding factor on who they select. The "Hawks DNA" will be used extensively to describe what the team is looking for in the draft. This source suspects both UCONN players are going to really impress the FO but the raw potential of both French kids is hard to overlook.

The FO is praying/hoping that the other Ressler doesn't stick his nose into the pick. The first ever #1 pick that will actually play with the Hawks (screw you David Thompson btw) is a huge deal. The fear is whoever Tony wants will be the de facto pick regardless of what the FO decides.

This does affect potential trade scenarios. If for instance Zach is the #1 pick the team will be less likely to trade for BI. If we take Sarr or Clingan then the need for a center will be less likely. Source feels as we get closer to the draft and the natural mania/hysteria over potential picks might get some serious trade talks brewing from sources we didn't expect before. And no, this source would not provide team names even when prompted.

May 12

I would trade the pick. That is if a deal makes sense. If they keep th the pick I think Sarr will be the choice.

May 12

1 minute ago, NBASupes said:

Giannis was pick 15 on a team with nothing with upside. He was given so much patience. The Hawks have a team built around Trae Young. Trae expects for us to win now. We rush this guy and put him at the 5, we our gonna f*** up our investment asap.

The risk is way too high. Everyone that wants us to draft him are comparing him to polished guys 10x better than he is. He may have more talent than most guys, hell, he would be one of the most talented players in last year's draft too but his floor is so damn low.

I don't like it and comparing it to Giannis doesn't speak to where we are and where we are with the pick.

This is valid. At 15th you can easily swing for pure potential. We can't do that. I honestly think Sarr at 3 would be a difference maker

May 12

3 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

I am pissed. Anyone wants to tell me off because they want me to praise someone i think will bust, can get the smoke today.

You can be upset but you are better than the personal insults. You know this my friend.

May 12

Just now, NBASupes said:

Thank goodness workouts haven't started yet. That said, that doesn't give me much hope either. I do expect Sarr to shine in individuals and since he's in this range, he doesn't have to play in a group setting. This was always my fear. The upside play and this doesn't even make sense either. People will sell on Sarr but I've watched the games in full. If he was that guy, believe me, I would be the first looking for him to be a member of the Hawks but he's not. I wasn't for Marvin over CP3 and I believe this would be a bigger mistake.

I'm honestly more thinking Sarr as a 3 would give us a crazy long front count.

May 12

14 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Maybe SA falls in love with someone and trades 4 and 8 to us

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Please don't bro. You are better than that.

May 12

Draft board before lottery balls was Sarr Risacher and Clingan. In that order. From both Hawks sources confirmed. Make of it what you will.

May 12

Just now, thecampster said:

If it's me, I'm trading down for assets if we can find a good partner.

I already spitballed trading with the Spurs for 4 and 8 for our #1 pick.

May 12

May 12

Update:

Sarr is the FO favorite at this moment. Ressler wants to keep the pick and not trade it since it is the first ever Hawks #1 lottery pick.

May 12

Just me spit balling this: wonder if the Spurs love someone enough to pair with Wemby to send us the 4 and 8 picks for our #1 pick.

May 12

Weakest draft in modern NBA history...so ofc we win the lottery for the first time ever. Classic Atlanta.

This will definitely change some of our plans for the roster.

From previous hypotheticals if we don't move the pick then Clingan, Sarr and the other french kid Zachary can't remember his last name are the names they were focusing on if we got lucky in the draft.

May 12

8 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Ingram is a negative asset.

Can you elaborate, if you don't mind? I know you feel he's a sieve defensively but he's not that bad from the tape I've watched. I wouldn't say he's a good defender but he's more of average wing defender. His length really makes up for some of his flaws as a defender.

Offensively...he really is a 4-5 inch taller version of DJM. I feel like they are basically the same player just with the size difference. He loves the mid range, is effective there, but has the same issues IMO of not getting to the rim enough and not truly stretching the floor with his three point shot.

I'm more concerned about his offensive fit than his defensive fit with the team if I'm being honest. I don't agree he is a negative asset but I do think this is not the slam dunk roster move some do.

May 12

54 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I sure as hell wouldn’t give up Murray and OO and only get f***ing Brandon Ingram.

What if it was Ingram, Daniels, #21 and the lakers 2025 unprotected first?

May 11

2 hours ago, Mikey said:

It’s so early for draft news but if this t wolves source is right I can’t think of who he is saying because there is only one center that fits that description and he will be long gone by 10…

I am passing along what that source said. I find it interesting that the NBA at large (that is how it was put to me) thinks the Hawks will fake wanting a wing but will really go for a defensive minded center. I don't see Clingan lasting that long either.

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