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our FO is not dumb. I have to repeat that. The biggest problem we have is Messy Ressy. No FO can overcome a cheap, meddlesome owner.
I've heard that he's going to go for the LT this summer and is willing to pay it so we'll see.
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I honestly don't understand the Pels here. They are keeping Zion, BI, Herb, Murphy off the table and yet want Dj and OO. That's...just not possible. They are offering us CJ and JV and two picks but that is nowhere near equal value. For one thing CJ and Trae would be a nightmare on defense.
Unless NO gets their head out of their ass I don't see a trade at this point.
This is looking more like summer trades than anything else.
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last I heard was Pels are trying hard to get DJ/OO without giving up Zion and BI and we want one of those back for that kind of return.
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Pelicans are trying to get both Murray and OO without giving up Zion or Ingram. I don't know how they think they can do that.
I'm surprised Grimes for AJ didn't happen.
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I don't think people understand that POA defense and wing defense are not the same. Our POA defense has been awful for years now. Hunter is not a POA defender. Blaming him for POA defense is like blaming one of our bigs.
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1 minute ago, bleachkit said:
When guys are help out for a possible trade, does a trade usually happen?
it isn't a lock but it means the talks are serious. My gut feeling is the deadline is going to push the Pels to either give up what we want or the Hawks table this until the offseason.
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can confirm obvious: DJ held out for possible trade reasons.
Pels talk is getting more serious. This might have to wait until the offseason to make a trade happen.
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Herb Jones and Tre Murphy would be ideal for this team. Jones solves our POA defense and Murphy is a solid starter or sixth man for the inevitable Hunter injury.
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I'm legit upset we didn't try harder for Simone. That dude is a big wing that defends and can shoot.
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My Twolf source told half the league is waiting to see what the Hawks do before they do anything. This might be the first time I can remember the Hawks are holding up the league like this. It is kinda comical.
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I heard he was off the table and almost all the Hawks players were at this point off the table at least until the offseason.
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I'm glad he is in it. Hopefully this is the last time he's in it as an injury replacement.
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I don't know what is going on with AJ. All I was told throughout this past year was last season something happened between AJ and Quin in private. That put AJ in Quin's doghouse. AJ lost his a close family member over the summer and took it very hard. I have asked more than once what is going on and all I have been told is it is a non basketball, private matter and they won't share any more details.
I respect that but at this point frankly the beat writers covering the Hawks need to push for a better answer than this. We've completely wasted his second season after a very good rookie season.
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2 hours ago, NBASupes said:Big Hawks news
Hawks are buyers
Murray no longer on the market
Bey isn't a lock to be on the market anymore. I was told they are strongly considering resigning him and paying the LT. Yes, I know. I'll believe it when I see it but there is a lot of hype around this in league circles.
Capela is still on the market but I am told it's just not a big market out there for him. As I've said weeks ago, I think Clint will finish out his contract with Atlanta even if its as a backup.
Hunter seems to be the enigma within the org. There are serious suitors but Atlanta has a lot of internal push back on moving him without a proper big wing moving forward and that's pretty much been the ongoing story with Hunter and his trade availability for years. I don't expect him to be moved.
Atlanta is seriously pushing for a Mills upgrade. Delon Wright has been the target. I am told Alex Caruso is not the target and the Bulls would rather keep him.
LaVine was close to getting moved to Detroit but he doesn't want to play there and had surgery. They shifted their energy to FA, Tobi Harris
Atlanta isn't shopping SAC 1st or their 1st. I am not expecting them to be players in the starters tier of the trade deadline names.
Hawks are really open to targeting another big wing to backup Hunter. Okoro is a player Atlanta is targeting.
A.J. is said to Atlanta best asset, that Atlanta willing to move and he's been in talks for Okoro.
If I had To rank Atlanta trade interest,
1. Backup big wing - They reached out to Brooklyn about both wings too but the price was too high for Atlanta.
2. Backup PG - Delon, reached out to Chicago about Caruso but cost was top high.
I don't see a trade that's gonna be big.
I got updates from my sources. Basically Messy Ressy has turned from being willing to blow up most of the roster to now he wants to add to it.
The team, as I and others said, were never going to give away players for basically nothing like those horrible Lakers deals.
It appears the only Hawk of note that might be moved is AJ for either Grimes or Okoro. The team has taken Murray off the market per Quin's request. The market for Capela is not what they thought it would be. Hope is they can move him in the offseason. Bey's still on the market but they seem to be willing to try and keep him past this season. Hunter's market is still there but the team has zero big wings other than him. They simply can't trade him unless we get a big wing 3 &D player back and those players are hard to get.
I have heard that Messy Ressy realizes his refusal to pay the LT has handicapped the FO and their ability to make trades or sign players. So going into the first LT apron is perhaps going to finally happen.
As I have said many times I will believe we are paying the LT when it actually happens.
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This is what I always wanted him to be. He has improved his defense dramatically last season and especially this season. He's shown maturity when he's being robbed at gunpoint from the All Star game. Said he would take an injury replacement if offered which, from what I've been told, he has been offered in the past and refused because of his hurt feelings.
I love this kid. You can't bitch about his defense and that was the only real thing you could ever bitch about with him. He's Two Way Trae now.
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I think if Capela was healthy and Jalen was more on his game we would have won. The Clips are honestly the best team in the NBA. 26-5 over their last 31 games. That's a statement loss if there is such a thing.
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1 minute ago, theheroatl said:
Tell me how in the world you know this as fact. Did DJ confirm to you in person? You seem so confident.
it has been reported elsewhere it was written a few weeks before it was leaked. But to answer your question, yes, I know this is real. That is his official twitter account and that DM is legit. It is why he deleted his twitter (again) after it was leaked.
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1 hour ago, Diesel said:
You telling me that DJ typed this whole diatribe filled with punctuation and emoticons and nothing misspelled .. no errors... in 1 Minute???
Yes. It was written I believe a few weeks before it was leaked.
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7 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:
It's a real post. He's had more immature fan interactions on Twitter in the past in addition to this, and even more from his Spurs days. I see no reason to resurface those, for the same reason I intentionally ignored your request to post this one, which is that I take no joy in bringing up dirt on our current players. And the message is not fake -- everything is not a conspiracy. @Sothron already confirmed it's a real DM (although he also did not speak on it much other than confirming it, presumably for the same reason I'd rather not belabor the point). Everything he says in the message tracks with his behavior on the court, what his dad tweets, etc. No real reason to question the authenticity of that one.
That was a real DM sent from DJ's real twitter. It is real. It also was sent earlier than when it was leaked. I have suspicions why it was released when it did but I'll keep that to myself.
But it was 100% legit from DM to a fan. He also had back and forth DMs with Spurs fans when he was in SA. This isn't rare for him to do that.
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7 minutes ago, NBASupes said:Murray been our best teammate within the locker room. Anyone who has issues with him ain't on the coaching staff or in the locker room and they aren't Landry
I don't know where this "bad teammate" is coming from. It is blatantly false. The only thing it can be is another FO trying to lower his value by smearing his name.
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The Jazz deal isn't that bad. Two playable players now plus two first rounders.
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Grimes for AJ makes a lot of sense for both teams.
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5 minutes ago, NBASupes said:They are under the LT for next year.
That's not counting resigning Bey and the two first round picks though.
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Hawks looking to trade
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Because making trades in the summer is a thousand times easier to do than during in season. Teams are more willing to move players/picks and pick a path for their franchise in the short and long term.
For instance, the TWolves can't keep KAT past this season. They just can't. No team is going to go into the 2nd apron level so KAT has to go. We want to trade for him as do the Knicks and other teams.
If Ressler is serious about paying the LT it means our FO will not be forced to trade players for nothing. It means we can actually add to the roster instead of trimming it.