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This is Tony Ressler wanting a more seasoned exec voice in the room. I don't think that's a bad thing.

This is what I get for being at work and not a paid "insider" @Mikey is scooping his own insiders

I'm hearing the 15th as well. Hawks have asked for final offers for DJM, Capela, Hunter, Bogi and AJ over the weekend. If nothing tops then a trade is expected on the 15th. I've heard Murray and possibly Capela this soon on the 15th with Dre coming later once he's healthy to resume playing.

3 hours ago, thecampster said:

I've shared this with the insiders. Take everything I say here with a grain of salt.  Its an extension of what is written above.

Jalen is the only untouchable on the roster. Not because he's the best but because his cost to production value is off the chart. There is no way to get back Jalen level value at his salary.

Trae is untouchable 1a.  But its not because he's untouchable.  Teams would not give back enough value for Trae. They understand how he limits teams and he's techs/complaining have worn thin around the league and with officials.  Trae is untouchable because you'd never get back = value.

The team would like to get back a good PF and slide Jalen to the 3. They believe his best value is at the 3 where he can overpower 1/2 of the 3's in the league.  The team would like to get bigger (like 10lbs/2 inches per position) and that starts with Jalen over Dre. The interesting name I heard (and I heard several) was Marvin Bagley at the 4 next to Jalen. They think that's the kind of size/fit they'd like and they think Trae can bring out the best in a player like Bagley.

The team would be willing to slide BB back into the starting lineup at the 2 if the return on DJ is good.

The team would like to move on from Clint for a bigger, longer Center with potential. They would be willing to play OO at the center until the big center develops.

Short answer, if you hear a rumor about us acquiring an undersized player, its a lie.  Quin wants length/size.  He doesn't want another Philly/NY/Miami foul fest with no retribution. 

I'd be very surprised if we don't acquire an enforcer.

Lastly, there is a possibility that for the right player, we spend that John Collins TPE.  I really can't say more than that but that's on the table right now.

To echo what @thecampster said: Quin wants a different roster. There's simply no other way to say it. They want to get taller, heavier and flat out more physical as an entire team. This isn't the case of just swapping one guy for another. Quin believes Trae is such a dynamic offensive engine he can simply elevate players who are good on defense/iffy on offense to at least be good enough to win with because of the Trae effect.

The team wants real size and length back in any trade. I think they would ideally want to move Jalen to SF where he can flat out bully ball 70% of the SFs in the NBA if not more while also with his 40% or so 3pt shooting still provide spacing.

I really don't want Andrew Wiggins. I went through the Wiggins Experience in Minnesota before. One good to great game, three average to  bad games and the cycle repeats. No thanks. 

It is mind boggling to watch Jalen have games like last night and know our last coach refused to play him. He's easily the 2nd best player on this team and this is his first year getting starter's minutes. Amazing growth.

The more DJM plays like he has lately the return for him goes up. I know some of you are against being a seller but we really could get some returns here to help this team long term.

GSW has now entered the DJM sweepstakes. Variety of offers, names I'm hearing are Kuminga and Wiggins. 

3 minutes ago, theheroatl said:

Clearly players will be traded. It’s the NBA. Only 1% of the talk is truly frameworks that are discussed. If it wasn’t, they wouldn’t be good general managers.

Would you want your personal negotiations being discussed elsewhere?

Going back to the last year:

Jake Fischer first hinted at DJM re-signing.

Nobody had Bey coming to us.

Nobody saw Huerter going to the Kings.

JC moving to Jazz was linked but for only a 2nd rounder was never discussed.

I'm not going to go through all of the things myself and others called first that happened or almost happened like JC being traded to the Suns last year. If you don't believe what we are saying that is your choice. 

I have to add we are al told things we aren't allowed to share in public as well. 

1 minute ago, theheroatl said:

Clearly with all the chatter, it’s not anything grounded in reality. Things are just not progressing as people think.. probably only 1% of the hype is real.

Every day new angles on not only DJ but also Siakam, and other potentially moving parts. Until some team gets super desperate like the Knicks always are and submits a big offer… it’s a big nothing burger.

I have no idea what you mean by the first sentence. Saying the chatter is not grounded in reality is absurd, honestly. There's real talks going on that's been reported not just  by the "insiders" here but multiple national NBA talking heads as well. 

There's always more talks about trades than actual trades. The difference in this specific instance is this roster will be blown up to some degree between now and the start of next season. You can feel free to ignore all of the chatter as simply chatter if you want. Just don't be shocked then players are actually traded.

2 hours ago, Diesel said:

Well I see all the rumors as entertainment and that's why I'm here...

This is probably the healthiest approach for everyone myself included to take.

Just to be clear I did not confirm or deny what the possible Knick offer was since I was asked not to share those details by the source that told me.

1 hour ago, REHawksFan said:

Wouldn't a bidding war suggest that the deal won't happen until the trade deadline?  That way they can extract maximum value for any player traded?  

That would kind of go against the thought that we would trade DJM as soon as he's allowed to be traded. 

We had a deal, the same deal @Mikey had some information on as well, close to go on the first day DJ was allowed to be traded.

Then other offers came in. Teams are doing what the Hawks really need: bidding against each other for DJ and other players. 

I still believe DJ will be traded before the deadline. It will just be a matter of choosing which offer to go with. 

I feel like it doesn't need to be said but I will say it now:

the team is going to take the best offer for Murray or any other Hawk. We may not like the return as fans but they are not taking pennies on the dollar or doing a fire sale of players. There's real bidding between teams for our players. 

Update: Spurs are probably the leading contender to get DJM at this point in time. They can not only offer our own picks back but have other real firsts and not fake firsts to offer. Keldon Johnson would be the most likely player coming back to us.

Updates I'm allowed to share:

Teams are having to bid against each other for our players which is exactly what the FO wanted. They wanted a real bidding war and we are getting some of that.

No one is being traded for pennies on the dollar. If you think the video I shared is my private belief on that please wipe that away. 

The most active teams pushing for him are the Lakers and Knicks. Spurs interest is legit. I would personally happily trade him back for our picks and undoing the pick swap but that's just me.

Lakers don't have much to offer. I know we have discussed a three team deal with the Lakers with Murray and Capela plus some kind of draft compensation from third team for AD coming to Atlanta.