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Posts posted by Sothron
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I watched or went to the games for all of Mookie's tenure here in Atlanta. I absolutely would call him a great point guard. He could deny ball entry, he could defend his man, he was fantastic in plying the lanes and snagging balls for steals and racing to the other end for an easy layup or an assist opportunity. The only point guard that is comparable to him (in his prime obviously) in terms of defense was Gary Payton.
Mookie had good handles. You also have to remember that Smitty got more than his fair share of assists in the slow down half court teams we had with Lenny on board. Mookie did his job extremely well.
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He was a great PG. The best on ball defender in the NBA for at least six to eight years, great passing skills and the only knock on him could be shooting. Add that up and you get a great point guard IMO.
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Mookie was a great point guard. Claxton isn't even in the same league. I think Smitty must have found Mookie's old stash to make that absurd comment.
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So...how bout that Hawk game from last year? Man we really showed Denver a thing or two.
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Jesus hates the Hawks. Kupo.
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Who are we going to trade Claxton for? Whose going to take him?
"Hey guys, I have a 5'10" point guard who couldn't hit a barn and is always injured. He's just 24 million over 4 years. Any takers?"
We're stuck with Speedy.
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These guys like Freije are end of the bench/DNP players for a reason. Yes, he sucked donkey balls tonight but who honestly expects him to be a good role player?
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Quote:ugh, that means more of Salim on the court.
That sums up my feeling. The shooter who can't shoot, defend well and a 6'1" guard who isn't a good ballhandler.
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That is a great article, thanks for sharing. Atlanta has a very good fanbase ready for a good Hawks team for it to embrace.
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I think an 0-82 season speaks for itself. As my father loves to say, "it doesn't matter if you lose by one or by a hundred, a loss is a loss and a win is a win."
I'm not disagreeing with you that team play is unimportant but while we gave up a big lead we still managed to win by nine points. Obviously something we did was working.
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What's even more insulting to me is when the media, especially the NY media, insists that Thomas can unload those bad contracts on teams like the Hawks because...its the Knicks and the other team could use a point guard.
I could think of at least a dozen other point guards I would want besides those two. I can't even name one team that would honestly trade for either of those guys.
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Quote:Why would it matter who we play?You said yourself that if we played against "Melo and his Mama" it would still count as a win and that is all that matters.
He's got ya on that one Diesel.
And no, I would not say the Hawks losing by a point to the best team in the league meant they sucked. Its an 82 game season. If they lost EVERY game like that then yes I'd be upset.
You would have had a better time trying to make this point if the Hawks had blown the 21 point lead and lost. Not when we survive their big run and end up winning by 9.
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Quote:Quote:I don't like Gasol personally. IMO he is just too soft a player on the defensive end of the court. Remember BIG Dog and his defense?
Gasol is 50 times the defensive presence that Big _og was. That's not saying much, but still...
Gasol is not a bad defensive player. I'm not sure if people think this because he's a white Euro player or something but its simply not true. He's not a great defensive player but he's not a liability out there either. He routinely goes up against the best big men in the entire league and handles his job defensively. Heck for that matter Memphis WITH him has had one of the best defenses in the NBA.
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Remember when all of the muppets on ESPN and TNT and around the internet were just convinced that the Knicks would trade Starbury or Francis to us? Remember that? They were just 100% convinced that Knight was in such desperate need for a point guard that we would use all of our cap space on retreads like those two.
It wasn't just talked about, it was almost a given. Now look at those two bumbs in NY this year. Both are clearly has beens of the worst kind: has beens stuck with max salaries. There is no way in the world NY could offer enough to get a team to swallow those poison pill contracts.
As much as the media muppets love to harp when they are right about something I would love to hear them actually admit all the rampant trade rumors they came up with were nothing but hot air and some writer's imaginations.
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Why are you calling me Ron? Should I call you Heavy D?
If we would have lost that game, as I said in another post, then sure its more than ok to be angry and to post about it. But we didn't lose it. We actually won by a comfortable margin. We're not a healthy team right now and we are still the youngest team in the NBA. I'm just not ready to bash the team for winning a game by nine points. I mean seriously dude just listen to yourself: you are complaining about the team when we WON the game.
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I really wish they would let the team wear the Pac Man jerseys on a permanent basis. The Pac Man Hawks symbol is by far the best logo the team ever had and those jerseys were great.
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That's exactly how I feel. I'd rather have an ugly one point win than a great game where we lose by one.
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What Pete said is true in that Eisley has come out to say no trade but you never know in the NBA.
I like Gasol. He's a steady player. He is a good low post scorer and if you look at his block numbers he can stick his paw in people's faces decently. He's not a great defensive player but I don't think he's any worse than average for his position. I think he'd give us a good low post threat to pair up with Joe Cool that could really give us a one/two punch we haven't had in years.
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I've never seen any one get as worked up about winning a game before as he did in that thread. I mean if we had lost the game and blew a 21 point lead, sure, its ok to be angry. But we won. I still don't understand that thread.
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Even if neither Marvin or Chill are good enough to start for us they give us more depth and more minutes to share (and rest) the remaining roster. It most certainly will help the team to have them back.
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Heya Lunar, long time no see. You'll like it over here, welcome aboard.
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I really don't know how to respond Diesel when you are complaining about the quality of a win. Yes, obviously, we came close to blowing the game but we didn't. Some of these games are going to be lost after we have a huge lead and in some games we may actually come back and win one.
I just don't understand being negative after we win a game. Maybe there is something to this site have people that maybe even on a subconcious level are happier when we lose so they have something to post about.
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I know its hard winning by only 9 points Diesel but hang in there kid. Some games we may only win by one point and I'd hate to see you move to get away from a team that only wins by so close a margin.
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Oh man I wish I could post at realgm right now...those trolls attacked the Hawks fans without mercy all last season. BIG SHOCK that Diaw has returned to his "Refuse to shoot at all costs" pussycat ways.