Sothron

4 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

What's the word on Hunter not showing up for his exit interview?

@Sothron @thecampster @NBASupes @Mikey @Vol4ever

I think it was excused for some kind of personal reason. Hunter was not a fan of Quin at first but he really bought in last season and had by far IMO his best season.

21 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Is this a change from wanting to trade down and take Edey?  I feel like I read that from you but could be misremembering.

I'm fine with taking Edey but not at #1. I want Sarr at #1, Clingan would be acceptable there as well but IMO it would be a stretch. 

9 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I'm also not going to buy into the OO gets destroyed by bigger centers talk.  I've seen OO defend Embiid as well as anyone in the NBA can defend him and also have the versatility to defend Giannis very well one on one.  I think too many have taken one game where Andre Drummond had a career night for himself against the Hawks, and that has suddenly become extrapolated to when the Hawks face bigger centers.  

Every big center that I can remember has good to really good nights against OO. It's not just Drummond. OO has some games where he can defend someone well because his athletic ability negates them (Giannis is the best example of this) but when it comes to sheer size...he struggles. To put it mildly. 

7 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I would take Sarr, but it isn't because I feel there is a gaping hole at center, because that comment completely diminishes Okongwu's real talent as a center and gets me back to the premise that I absolutely hate which is that Okongwu isn't big enough so we should just ignore his real talent.  

I've seen OO get destroyed by enough big centers to want off that train. He has talent and I wouldn't just give him away but I would prefer a bigger center. My dream lineup for next season assuming no trades would be a front court of Sarr/OO/Jalen and I dgaf about where the play on offense because defense is where it would really shine with each guy's strengths matching up well to the other guy's weaknesses. Sarr's ability to roam and switch and be a rim protector would make that a very hard matchup defensively.

I would be totally fine with taking Clingan because a big guy that's a defensive anchor and can do what he does on offense is what we need. We desperately need a big guy that can do more than what Capela brings

I really don't think most people on here appreciate the time and energy Supes spends on his draft breakdowns and prospect scouting. This isn't some random drive by evaluation he has with Edey. There's research into it.

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

They are not considering Edey though. Not one bit

According to what I'm hearing as well as the other insiders, yes, they are. Just not at #1. 

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

The deal fell through because Dejounte did not want to go to toronto. He told the hawks he would take the paycut if they didn't send him there

I said this back when it happened as well. DJM literally signed the extension to stop the trade from happening.

1 hour ago, Blunt91 said:

     Hold up, I remember you stating Reseller wanted to keep the pick?  So how can he be happy about the pick, but also scared to keep the pick because what it would cost?  Is Tony this clueless about the price for a #1 pick?

Oh boy....this is where we go into why we haven't talked about this in public until now.

If you are an owner and your FO tells you this draft doesn't have a real #1 pick, we can trade that pick, get more assets and get a guy we feel has the same value...and save the owner $$$ for not paying #1 pick money...what would you do?

11 minutes ago, JTB said:

Whoa! Is that breaking insider news ?

I haven’t read that from any of you guys. I wasn’t expecting it to even be on the table since it’s the hawks first time ever winning the lottery but on the flip side, good that they don’t care about that and much rather build a winner.

 

i am ok with sending Murray and our 1st pick to SA for #4 and #8 plus Vassell.

Yes, it is the first one of us has mentioned it on here. We've talked about it privately. I think trading the pick would be a disaster PR move and it would be more about Ressler saving money by not having to pay the #1 pick salary scale. 

14 minutes ago, JTB said:

This is interesting. very serious about Edey but not at #1…that tells me they may be willing to trade the number 1 pick.

It is very much in play

27 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Lol i gotta save this thread to come back to a couple years from now.  Gonna have some real gems to read through 

To be fair to Supes:

Edey is easily the best player in college the last two years. There's no one else even close to him IMO.

Edey's proven skill sets are more than solid for the NBA.

Edey's athletic measurements were WAY better than NBA scouts/execs thought it would be. He tested well beyond what even his biggest supporters thought he would. 

Add those three things up and Edey is going to be a top 10 pick in the draft. I can tell you and I know the other insiders can as well frankly that the Hawks are in fact very serious about Edey just not at #1.

1 hour ago, terrell said:

You need to get this message to the F.O. somehow, because I doubt your boy is even their radar at #1....

Do you think its even possible? I cant see it..

Its gonna be Sarr or Risacher IMO..

 

He is very much on the Hawks radar but not at #1.

1 hour ago, Spud2nique said:

To somebody who witnessed the Moon run n shoot live every game in Houston that’s insulting. 

Funny I hated their guts and live in the Bay  

I love Warren Moon. He had so many NFL years robbed because, let's be honest, racist white guys couldn't see past his color and see the incredible skills he had as a QB.

If Edey becomes a star and Sarr doesn't...Supes will never, ever let us forget it.

I do think Edey is going to have a good NBA career. I think Sarr will as well and I like Sarr's upside more than Edey's. Basically I'm gambling on a higher floor and lower ceiling over higher ceiling but much lower floor. 

Whoever we take I will support them. As @NBASupes mentioned...go back and look at old draft threads from that draft. I was praying to God we took Deron Williams because he had the It factor. And he had a probably HOF career path until injuries just derailed the the last years of his career. CP3 I was more leery of about injuries but he's still going and is a definite HOF player. Marvin Superbust Williams...it still makes me sick to think about him.

Thankfully for me at least there is NO prospect in this draft I feel as strongly about as I did Deron Williams in that draft. Reed Sheppard is probably the closest but I know we're not taking him #1.

4 hours ago, NBASupes said:

Sothron and I are generally on the same page and we are day and night on this one. I still love my brother and I will never hate on my brother, EVER

There are people that had Penix as a 2nd round prospect so to them, it was a massive reach. 

For me, I loved it and I wanted Penix to sit a year. 

I was being facetious about Penix. I had him  as a mid to late first rounder. I'm scared of his injury history and his age. I just wanted the team to address the pass rush or the complete lack of any corners outside of AJ Terrell. 

I just hate paying Kirk Cousins that kind of cheddar and then be like well he's got two years before Penix takes over. What if Cousins is playing great? Why would we kick out him to the curb for an unproven old at that point first time starter?

And...this is the Hawks forum lol we can discuss Penix in the other forum

Love you too bro. I never hate on you. We usually are on the same page about prospects and players in any sport.

26 minutes ago, JTB said:

Take the best player who can make impact today I say. 

If we draft Edey I'll be surprised if not shocked but I'll 100% support him as I would any Hawk player not named Marvin F'ing Williams or Shellhead Williams. The only two Hawks in my lifetime fandom I never liked or supported.