Sothron

May 25

Cavs have Allen with Mobley. We need our own Allen to really maximize Sarr imo.

May 25

4 hours ago, Hawkish said:

Would they just absorb DJ’s salary? It looks like they could. I like Thompson, too. Cade seems like a player that has to have the ball to be effective. Same issue as Trae/DJ? Cade can at least attempt to guard bigger players.

They would probably want to move ivey and 5 for djm.

May 25

2 hours ago, Hawkish said:

This is exactly my plan. I don’t see the Pistons giving up #5 for DJ.

They already were offering it to us. I would not be shocked if Dj is moved to the Pistons. It makes a lot of sense.

May 25

Right now, Sarr, Risacheer ( I know I butchered his name, I'm tired) and Clingan are the leading candidates. I feel it is going to be between the top two French guys if we keep the pick.

May 24

2 hours ago, JeffS17 said:

Not to discredit you personally, but unless your source is Landry himself, I cannot imagine this being the type of info we can take without a massive grain of salt.

Key word is early. Remember, no one in the world thought we would actually win the lottery. every team has a big board of prospects but really focuses on the range you think you are going to be in the draft. No one had done in depth serious looks at the top of the draft. Tony Ressler does keep up with basketball. I think he's a lot of things I'd rather not say in public but he at least does keep up with basketball. His liking Clingan and his potential fit on our team is really not that bad of a take for anyone to make.

That being said, I was told Ressler is going to go by the FO this time on the final decision on what to do with the pick. They have a lot of work to do so Tony Ressler's early liking of a player is just that. I wouldn't read too far into it frankly and I say that as someone that is not a Tony Ressler fan.

May 24

1 hour ago, Sothron said:

Exciting smaller american black point guard that kids and average height ppl identify with ...versus a slower white foreign player that only played in Europe.

I am trying very hard not to put this in terms that would be nothing but a headache and a distraction on this forum. If you think you know what I am getting at then you get one of the main reasons why Ressler made that decision.

I really would rather we as a fanbase move on from Luka/Trae. It happened. I hate that it did but it did. We still have a superstar PG out of it and the best player since Nique to play in Atlanta. I will take THAT 100% of the time.

May 24

1 hour ago, KB21 said:

So, if this is the case, why did the marketing department think Trae Young was more marketable than Luka?

Exciting smaller american black point guard that kids and average height ppl identify with ...versus a slower white foreign player that only played in Europe.

May 24

1 hour ago, JTB said:

Any word on who Resseler likes in this upcoming draft?

im going to assume it’s Sarr. Feel like we asked you guys this already and if so my bad.

Tony likes Clingan but it is early and he is saying he's going to listen to the front office.

May 24

I've already detailed what happened with Luka/Trae. Ressler screwed us over by listening to the marketing dept over his basketball people. He and Cuban hashed out the deal on draft day because Travis was 100% going to draft Luka if he fell to us. Then Ressler went over his head and made the trade on his own. Ressler also vetoed deals we had for Millsap and Horford as well as deals to trade Red Velvet and Collins.

Ressler is a nightmare owner. He blatantly interferes with his basketball front office and is cheap. It is the worst of all worlds outside of his trying to relocate the team.

May 23

Blaming coaches for FO not building rosters or players being hurt or just being out played is as insane now as it was in the 1980's when I first started really understanding the sport.

May 23

4 hours ago, terrell said:

Has the #1 pick ever been a backup as a rookie?

Hawks aren't good enough for that......

If he cant beat out OO/Capela at center he doesn't deserve to be the #1 pick... lol

If that's the case, just draft Risacher and let him replace Dre as the starting 3...

With that said, he'll get PLENTY of min if he were to back up OO, because he might foul out every game playing starters min.......

As I said in the other thread...you don't take the #1 pick because you want him to be the best player out of his rookie class in just their rookie season. You take whoever you feel with development will be the BEST player out of this class. Sarr playing backup minutes at 4/5 is totally fine.

He just turned 19. He literally spent his entire age 18 season in one of the most physical leagues in the world in the Aussie league. There's a reason why you've seen NBA front offices draft young kids that proved some chops there. The veterans in that league DGAF about prospects or someone's draft status. They play hard and physical. It is an excellent way to gauge if someone has that dog in them to rise to that level of physical play and still show their talent.

Sarr is young AF at just turning 19. Saying he has to start at NINETEEN is like saying Kobe and KG and TMac and whoever else that young HAD to start to prove their worth to their teams.

May 23

4 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:

What's the word on Hunter not showing up for his exit interview?

@Sothron @thecampster @NBASupes @Mikey @Vol4ever

I think it was excused for some kind of personal reason. Hunter was not a fan of Quin at first but he really bought in last season and had by far IMO his best season.

May 23

There was more coming from Utah than just George. The Hawks are not giving Murray away.

May 22

21 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:

Is this a change from wanting to trade down and take Edey? I feel like I read that from you but could be misremembering.

I'm fine with taking Edey but not at #1. I want Sarr at #1, Clingan would be acceptable there as well but IMO it would be a stretch.

May 22

9 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I'm also not going to buy into the OO gets destroyed by bigger centers talk. I've seen OO defend Embiid as well as anyone in the NBA can defend him and also have the versatility to defend Giannis very well one on one. I think too many have taken one game where Andre Drummond had a career night for himself against the Hawks, and that has suddenly become extrapolated to when the Hawks face bigger centers.

Every big center that I can remember has good to really good nights against OO. It's not just Drummond. OO has some games where he can defend someone well because his athletic ability negates them (Giannis is the best example of this) but when it comes to sheer size...he struggles. To put it mildly.

May 22

7 minutes ago, KB21 said:

I would take Sarr, but it isn't because I feel there is a gaping hole at center, because that comment completely diminishes Okongwu's real talent as a center and gets me back to the premise that I absolutely hate which is that Okongwu isn't big enough so we should just ignore his real talent.

I've seen OO get destroyed by enough big centers to want off that train. He has talent and I wouldn't just give him away but I would prefer a bigger center. My dream lineup for next season assuming no trades would be a front court of Sarr/OO/Jalen and I dgaf about where the play on offense because defense is where it would really shine with each guy's strengths matching up well to the other guy's weaknesses. Sarr's ability to roam and switch and be a rim protector would make that a very hard matchup defensively.

May 22

Sarr basically destroyed G league Ignite in both games they played last season and they have TWO prospects almost guaranteed to be top 10 picks this draft.

For me personally I would take Sarr at #1, if for some reason they don't want him then take Clingan. We have a gaping hole at center IMO and we need improvement there.

May 22

I would be totally fine with taking Clingan because a big guy that's a defensive anchor and can do what he does on offense is what we need. We desperately need a big guy that can do more than what Capela brings

May 21

You don't draft someone especially at #1 and expect them to come in and be a 26 year old veteran. You take who you feel with the right coaching/development will be the best player over time. These knocks on prospects about how they don't have strength or this or that skill...well...yeah. They are kids. They have to develop.

May 21

I really don't think most people on here appreciate the time and energy Supes spends on his draft breakdowns and prospect scouting. This isn't some random drive by evaluation he has with Edey. There's research into it.

May 20

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

They are not considering Edey though. Not one bit

According to what I'm hearing as well as the other insiders, yes, they are. Just not at #1.

May 20

1 hour ago, Mikey said:

The deal fell through because Dejounte did not want to go to toronto. He told the hawks he would take the paycut if they didn't send him there

I said this back when it happened as well. DJM literally signed the extension to stop the trade from happening.

May 20

1 hour ago, deester11 said:

I'll say it. It's delusional. No fking body is saying Edey is worth the number one pick. The guys that say lottery are saying 10, and yet the other teams aren't clamoring for Edey at one. Says a lot. Insiders....yall are now saying they are discussing Edey....tell me they are mentioning at one.. I'm going to just say..bs. If they are discussing Edey, it's in a trade down. I stand on that. If Edey goes one, the Hawks aren't doing the picking.

I realize I am not a mod but calling someone delusional is just insulting. Supes it not delusional. You can say his belief that Edey should be #1 is a reach and make the same point.

As about the insiders...I've said more than once they are considering Edey but NOT at #1. They are definitely considering him but not at #1. His private workout(s) with the team will be telling.

May 20

1 hour ago, Blunt91 said:

Hold up, I remember you stating Reseller wanted to keep the pick? So how can he be happy about the pick, but also scared to keep the pick because what it would cost? Is Tony this clueless about the price for a #1 pick?

Oh boy....this is where we go into why we haven't talked about this in public until now.

If you are an owner and your FO tells you this draft doesn't have a real #1 pick, we can trade that pick, get more assets and get a guy we feel has the same value...and save the owner $$$ for not paying #1 pick money...what would you do?

May 20

11 minutes ago, JTB said:

Whoa! Is that breaking insider news ?

I haven’t read that from any of you guys. I wasn’t expecting it to even be on the table since it’s the hawks first time ever winning the lottery but on the flip side, good that they don’t care about that and much rather build a winner.

i am ok with sending Murray and our 1st pick to SA for #4 and #8 plus Vassell.

Yes, it is the first one of us has mentioned it on here. We've talked about it privately. I think trading the pick would be a disaster PR move and it would be more about Ressler saving money by not having to pay the #1 pick salary scale.

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