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1 hour ago, LastDon said:

Getting Drummond now  for a test drive is good because it allows us a chance to see how he fits in..if he doesn't fit and enter Free agency.. We still could possibly end up with a young center in James Wiseman..Acquiring Drummond really isn't that risky if the price is only dead money/pick..The key is to continue to drive the asking price down till at or near the deadline..

I’ve said this too. I think it would be a huge benefit for us to see if he fits before we sign him. I’m not willing to give up our first or the Brooklyn first for it though. 

44 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

As of today the Brooklyn Nets pick:

16th overall 

We actually play them on Sunday.  

Looking at the standings, it looks like they are destined for the 7 or 8 spot. They are 6 games behind the 6 seed and I don’t see any of the teams below them passing them. The 8 seed in the west will likely be a team around .500 too, so we just got to hope they get 8th in East and finish with a worse record than the West #8. The odds are looking pretty good we get either the 15th, 16th, or 17th pick. 

20 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Pro Drummond notes :

In the last 6 years, he’s missed 9 games. That’s pretty incredible for a big. (Also a negative here because even though he’s 26, he’s had enough games and minutes for a 28-29 year old, wear n tera could come but he’s shown he’s mad strong ).

Going on 3rd year of being the NBA’s rebounding champ roughly 16 per a night.

 

Also, as someone mentioned before he’s never played with anyone even close to Trae’s talent level. You would be putting the best passer and extreme range shooters in Trae with the best rebounder in the game. Lethal 1-5 punch .

He’s averaging about 2 blocks and 2 steals which is insane for a center (steals) but why are his turnovers at a career high 3.6 this year? Seems awfully high for a center.

 

Just looking at his basic stats, he’s averaging a career high in shots (not by much) and close to three assists a game. His assists are at 2.6, his career high is 3, and he’s usually around 1 per game. Maybe they are running more of the offense through him and that is leading to turnovers?

I guess the small “kind of good news” is JC was doubtful and not ruled out from the get go. Hopefully we get him back in a few days. 

I really never thought Trae would be a starter in the ASG this year. I guessed he would be an alternate because I assumed somebody would be hurt or want some rest. Getting him in would be great for us. I love Joe, but you know during his appearances that he never would “recruit” the way Trae will.

I saw this on social media. Glad you are okay @JayBirdHawk! 

I think the worst part is you don’t know what’s going on at the time. You read the story and see it isn’t an open shooter, but you don’t know that when you hear the shots. 

10 minutes ago, bleachkit said:

If we still completely suck by February then I'm all for major changes. I know... the plan, the process, whatever you want to call it, but if it ain't working then change course.

Feb is soon, but you did say completely suck so I have to agree lol.

You are right, but I think 1 and 2 were maybe mid season trades. Not long term upgrades, but improving the team. Our health and Collins letting us down means it will probably be an off-season thing. Take the pick and let the team grow at this point.

37 minutes ago, LK6969 said:

Wow CLP finally used a coaches challenge properly. LMAO.

It's not just me and Bonkers. CLP is UTTER DOGDOODOO. Many people see it. Check twitter or stay delusional. 

Are you CLP's wife? Is that why you are defending him? LOL.

CLP has had plenty of time. It's CLEAR he isn't up for that job. Dude is LEGIT TRASH. He has ruined the development of several of our players. Trae is checked out. Cam gets pulled when he has hot. Bruno not getting nearly enough time on the court. Love affairs with legit no talent players like Djones and VC. 

 

Can't rotate properly. Can't coach properly. Can't cal timeouts properly. Can't play call properly. Can't gameplan properly. 

Just flat out F- garbage coach. 

As far as the ranting goes, it is you and bonkers. I don’t see a need to call out other posters for not ranting. We are Hawks fans, be happy you have another one to talk too..

Beyond that, I am all for calling out his poor coaching. He has struggled a lot with his rotations this year. The team is frustrated and so are the fans. That said, a lot of us just want to see what happens with a healthy team. We had that the first few games, but despite being healthy, our rookies were just getting their first NBA experience. Hunter, Reddish and Bruno are all better today than they were in October.

Just let the season play out. I don’t think anybody is sold on CLP, but it’s waaaay to early to judge him or the team based on expectations plus Collins/injuries. 

1 minute ago, TheNorthCydeRises said:

LOL . . true.

But this is why I keep beating the "develop Bruno" drum.  It was OBVIOUS early on in this game that Len nor Jones could guard Bam.   Parker can't guard anybody, yet LP elected to play him at the 5.

But if you need a defender at the 5, especially out on the perimeter, Bruno HAS to be the choice.  He's the only big on the team that can laterally move enough to stay in front of a guy like Bam.

I just want LP to get the right feel for the game ( which I thought he had for most of this game ), and understand the strengths of everybody.

But to have Vince AND Bembry in the game, and acting like those guys can defend and make shots, is just laughable.

Like people have been saying.  Call timeout after that 1st 3 that Miami made.  Get Trae in.  And see if we can run the halfcourt offense that basically got us the lead.

Just a horrible loss.  An unnecessary loss.

One guy that should have gotten more minutes with Collins out is Bruno. If we are going to lose, let him get some minutes. It doesn’t hurt, especially when we see Parker playing the 5.

Also, great game from Hunter. I know some think he is underachieving but I’ve been impressed with him so far this year. 

I’m not going to go down the fire CLP like some of you, but that was pretty awful. I know Huerter is on a minutes restriction, but he screwed up once it was 117-111 with our lineups. Trae should have never came out. Even with him coming out, you need to call TO and get him back in. Pitiful..

I was looking at our schedule and thinking about this today too. I can't believe we are only 4 games back of the 8th seed. It really shows how bad the East is, but it'd be nice if we could take advantage. 

Making the playoffs as an 8th seed in the East with a record under .500 isn't much to brag about, but it would be good experience for our guys. We did that twice during our playoff streak and both of those were actually some of my favorite playoff series. In 07/08 we finished 37-45 and took the Celtics to 7 games. I felt that really helped the young group and they enjoyed some solid seasons and first round playoff success after that. In 13/14 we finished 38-44 and really should have beat the Pacers in game 6 to win the series. The next year we won 60 games (we also added a healthy Al Horford back).

If we go 32-29 we will hit the 37-45 mark. Is it good enough to get in the playoffs? Can we play at that level once John and Kevin come back, assuming there are no more injuries? I really don't know, but I do feel that hopefully the worst is behind us and we can start enjoying more than just watching to see what Trae does each night. Even though that is fun, I also want some victories to go with it.

13 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

It's Trae and everybody else. Anyone saying this team as is is talented without Collins and Huerter is delusional.

Our rookies are rookies and dissapear. Jabari plays well against his former team then disappears, Vince is really showing his age, we never know which Center will give us anything, Bembry giveth and taketh away. Turner and Crabbe, meh.

They're not good enough to execute in close games.

@kg01. This should have been a win for kg05, but alas it wasn't in the cards.

 

Exactly. Nobody (especially anybody that found this forum) likes to see us lose games..but I can’t get too mad until I see us play full strength. Hopefully soon.

1 hour ago, GameTime said:

You really think 10 assists per game is his peak? He is already averaging 9 a game with these scrub bigs and shooters we have on the team now. I think he can lead the league for many years in assists if he has the right personnel.

Stockton/Nash numbers in assists (12-13 APG)........

So......... 25 PPG, 13 APG, and 4 RPG are MVP numbers.

I think his peak includes playing off the ball. So, you hopefully see Reddish and Huerter doing some of the ball handling and getting assists too. You also see the hockey assists and bigs getting free throws instead of turnovers (which is on them), which don’t show up as assists but show his control of the offense.

Trae can get all of the assists he wants. I’m more into how he moves the ball for the team, not the one pass for a shot.