swolehawk2

Man I am feeling real good about a future Ivey/Chill backcourt.

I do miss Stinger's "Yes Sirr!" though.

I am talking about Collier....and how he doesn't fit what we want to do on the defensive end....I am one of the most patient fans that post here....but I can see that he is a liability and does not allow us to begin games with the team defensive effectiveness that Woodson wants. Kenny falls in to this category also.

I know this team won't win now....but I have been saying from the beginning the thing I want to see is defense and effort.

Collier is not physical and comfortable in the paint...and not a good defensive player...some players aren't...and some players never become good defenders ....I believe Collier won't ever defend the way we need him to to fit in to this teams identity....therefore he should come off the bench.....along with Kenny. If Woodson truly wants this team to hang its hat on its defensive play....these are changes that have to be made.

I believe all our rookies will become good players....along with Diaw. I think the future looks good for the team...so don't call me negative...because I point out something that I think needs changing.

I negative post.....usually contains ...we suck ....he sucks....Hawks can't do anything right.....and usually judges rookies after two preseason games....that is not what I was doing.

That was a different team...a different style...all he did was hit open jump shots last year...he doesn't do much else...I would not call that awesome....we need a more defensive minded center to begin games...and to play the way we hwant to defensively from the beginning of the game. Drobs actually plays better D. Actually Kenny and Collier kill our team D.

Why is he starting? He is damn near useless...can't defend.....can't rebound...doesn't score.....I don't get it.

How sweet would it be....to be watching our backcourt for the next ten years. Grow rookies grow!

Yep......I think our best lineup tonight was Ivey Chill AL Smith and Walker.

I love Iveys game and he seems to run the offense better than Kenny.

I'm want to see how we react if we have trouble scoring and after turnovers. Want to see if we bust our tails in transition or do we hang heads, loaf and get ran to death and out of Phoenix.

Also, I expect that most of our O will run through Toine and Al in the post...wonder if PHX will play us straight up and if not can we make shots and cuts to beat double teams.

I would love to see some pick and roll with Kenny and Toine.

Most of all, I need to see effort.

I'm thinking we will have a 9 man rotation to start the season. Willis, Smith, Delk and Barry being our bench.

Chill probably will get mins. here and there.

We could sure use a big man that can rebound and block shots!

Josh was so high...he almost slammed his body into the backboard.....LOL

Yeah....sounds like Harrington was giving them fits.....I think I heard about 4 or 5 different defenders....big and small.

He said we have more offensive weapons...not necessarily better weapons....meaning just about anybody we put out there is capable of scoring...from the Bigs to our bench.... offensive skills.

I would not complain one bit with those signings...of course they would be short term deals.

I remember Richard Jefferson complaining that the refs called a foul on the US three consecutive times. Like it is a rule if you foul twice, on the next trip down you get a free foul....lol That's the problem with NBA officiating...fouls are influenced by when they happen and who commits them.

I think 41% is fine for a jump shooting 5 that is 6'11 270 and plays facing the basket and shoots jump shots....hell I think Michael Redd only shot around 44% last year.

But I agree we do need a banger...but I think BK's theory is if everyone can knock down a jump shot then that spreads the D making it easier to score for Harrington or Toine in the post.

BK is doing something almost unheard of in the NBA...he is loading up on big men who can actually shoot....Drob...Collier....Toine...CC.....all ot these cats can shoot so if if Al is in the post and draws doubles he can kick to lets say.....Drob... Toine.....Delk.....Childress...all of which can not down a jump shot......we will see how it plays out.

I think he is trying to decide what is best for the team...if he has a trade brewing then why sign Barry if you need that roster spot. I think Sura wanted to play for a contender .....just because we didn't sign Sura does not mean we didn't want to...he did want to play in Atl.

I thought Nique said Al was one of the best post SF in the league...which he is.

This came out of Woodson's mouth during an interview yesterday on 790.

friday....Woodson says Damp will be in ATL tom. Woodson is flying to ATL tom. also to talk to Damp and see what he is thinking.

I don't think you can judge BK at this moment...this is a rebuilding process and is going to take a while....start judging him when he puts a team together and says we expect this team to compete for a championship.

How can u be upset with this trade. according to you JT can barely walk much less play ball....and Hendu does not play at all...so we get a player who contract expires next year..in stead of stuck with JT and getting nothing for him in two years when he walks. If JT sucks so much...how do u expect us to trade him for much better than what we got?