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Get healthy is the only solution I see to get us to consistent. Depth is key for us to win not to cover for people (although it helps with that) but for us to be effective. We need our shooters to spread the floor in particular on offense.
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Yeah. Game by game judgments of raw rookies is not a real useful way to do this. Can you imagine all the victory parades people would have held judging Giannis or Steve Nash or Jalen Johnson, etc. by these standards giving us the daily “teenager looked bad today this means he sucks forever” evaluation.
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Trae was the ant player of this game. Stinker for him. Hawks gave away they needed to get. Really was hoping Hunter would be back for this one. Hate that every time he puts together a few good games he ends up on the shelf.
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41 wins is a lot more likely than 30. (60 is impossible absent a major trade or divine intervention.)
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Trap game for sure. I think someone said that. 13 minutes left Hawks. Let’s pull this one out. We need every win this season.
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That is true but doesn’t mean he is wrong about Quin. Those statements could both be true. I’m giving Quin more time with Zacc, Dyson and Hunter together before making any judgements personally.
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This is because we are in a situation that is a lot like that. We had 3 guys in the starting lineup who struggled on offense last game and the 5th was Trae who had the entire defense focused on him and turned the ball over a ton.
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Even the worst teams in league history win roughly 15% of their games. One of the worst teams in the entire league that year beat the 72 win Bulls. You can't take any team for granted.
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Then you should be happy at how inefficient our opponents have been on our turnovers this season.
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This is your pet issue so I'll bow out at this point. We all know Murray doesn't create nearly as many opportunities for others and didn't turn it over as much as Trae. He saw his turnovers increase when Trae was injured and he tried to do more. The offense was significantly worse when he was running it than when Trae was which is the most important part for me. We've covered it in detail in the past. I care most about how the offense performs overall.
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Agree to disagree. He was the best player on the court for the Hawks in both games. I don't care about expectations. Game ball goes to the best player. If Trae is giving you 30 and 10 every game and so that is his baseline, you don't give it to someone for scoring 18 points when you only expected 8 from them. I agree that OO and DD had nice games in game 1 but Trae and his +40 were still the most important minutes from anyone, imo. We might have lost if any of them missed the game but he was our best player which is what gets the nod for me. By way of example, if Dyson becomes our best player this season I don't give him player of the game over and over until he sets a new baseline of playing All-League defense and putting up 25 / 8 / 5 every game and then start giving the game balls to Vit for putting up 16 and 6 simply because now I expect 25 / 8 / 5 from Dyson every game whereas Vit doubled his expected output. If Dyson is the best and most impactful player on the court game after game, he should win the game ball game after game. Basketball is a team game and almost never will a game be won or lost based on a single player. But for me the game ball goes to the best player that game. It should normally go to the best player on the team because that player will normally be the best player on the court that night.
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Every team in the league wishes it could replace all its turnovers with shots. It isn't like players sit there and go hmmm...should I turn the ball over here, jack up a bad shot myself, or send a pass to a teammate who will send up a bad shot? Hope he is there. It would really help. I definitely hope the knee issue is minor and won't result in significant missed time this season.
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This is a dangerous game. We are down Kobe, Hunter, Bogi, and OO and coming off a back to back where OKC made our starters work non-stop until they collapsed in the 4th quarter. Our guys may be tired and not mentally primed for this one. We need to take care of business.
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I'm just reiterating the $.02 I already shared on those games. I give the game ball to the best player on the floor unless there legit is a tie or something. I don't give guys game balls for having good games that exceed expectations unless they are in fact the best player on the floor that game. Gary Mathews scoring 30 points and grabbing 8 rebounds still isn't getting the game ball if Trae goes 40 and 10 and is the best player for us even if 30 from GM is clearly a huge lift for the team over his baseline expected production.
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Their depth gives them the luxury to customize the lineup to the matchup.
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