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He looks skinny in that video clip even if he is 230 pounds.

I would hope he wants to be more then a dunker.

Why would they want Al over Maggette? They have Brand and Kamen to man the post, but need a slasher to go along with Mobley (a shooter) at the wings. Maggette can drive to the hoop so he is a much better fit for them. Plus they already have one guy with an ending contract now in Radmonovic.

Quote: This is the guy that I feel will emerge, in time, as the best point guard to come from this draft. Over his past six games, Raymond Felton is averaging 17.5 PPG, 6.7 APG, 5.5 RPG, 1.7 SPG, .500 FG%, .478 3P%, and .800 FT%. His play has really picked up. IMO, Raymond Felton is easily the most athletic of the point guards that were drafted. I also think he has the best instincts for dishing the ball when in the open floor. He penetrates into the lane at will. The only way I would have passed up an opportunity to get Marvin Williams was if I could have made a move to ensure getting Raymond Felton and Sean May. so you are saying Felton's numbers over six games are about the same as Paul's for the season?

No way that deal happens - the Hawks would be getting arguably the two best players in the deal.

That is pretty similar to what he was doing at the end of last year if I remember correctly.

Well, their minutes are basically the same already.

Since the Hawks are so much better without Al why doesn't Billy trade him? Wouldn't it make sense to trade him now as opposed to after the season because his value is likely to decline - assuming the young guys take his minutes over the second half of the season they his value in a sign and trade goes into the toilet after the season.

Quote: Quote: I have no doubt you guys can shoot, I doubt very seriously either of your can "consistantly " make 9 out of every 10 3 pointers you take..I guess it might come down to your definition of consistantly.. Shooting one right after the other I would bet i could make 26 of 30 or better it until I got tired, assuming the guy throwing the ball back to me doesn't move me all over the place. I bet there are other guys on the board who could do the same. It isn't that hard once you get in a grove. Shooting in games is a different story. Nowadays I am hot and cold, just like most people. So you are saying you could win the 3 point shooting contest at the all star game? I don't think the winners hit 26 out of 30.

Quote: Yeah. That's why they have been winning without Paul in the line up. Speedy Claxton has stepped in and pretty much given them the same production. How can that be? It probably has something to do with both David West and Kirk Snyder coming into their own. Kirk Snyder is averaging over 15 points per 40 this year and has a 15+ PER. I posted the numbers that prove Iguodala isn't the better all around player, and you still try to say he is. It's obvious he isn't. If anything, the differences are negligible and prove that Billy can't be criticized for taking Josh Childress over Andre Iguodala. Wow a 15+ PER and 15 points per 40 minutes! Paul is 16th in the NBA with a 22+ per. And Igoudala is a better ballhandler, defender and athlete then Childress and they are equal in rebounding and shooting.

Why is Orlando willing to unload him for an expiring contract then?

Quote: The problem with Iguodala is that he is a shooting guard that can't shoot. Childress doesn't have the athleticism that Iguodala, but he is a better shooter than Iguodala despite his form. Personaly, you could go to some of the predraft discussions on that draft, and you would see that a guy I particularily liked was Kirk Snyder. His play this season is a big reason the Hornets have played better. Wow. Igoudala has essentially the same shooting percentages as Childress. Iggy is definitely the better all around player though. Snyder is lucky to still be in the league, and I seriously question whether his play has anything to do with NO's success. The reason for their success is largely because of Paul and West. NO just has better building blocks in Paul and West then the Hawks have in JJ and Al.

He was a ball hog then and is a ball hog now. That is why Houston jettisoned him and why Orlando wants to know. Do we need to be the third team he flames out at? I say no. There is a reason he is available, think about it. Getting him also precludes the Hawks from getting any legitimate big man in the foreseable future.

Quote: Quote: Griffin is a nobody. He would just take minutes away from Smoove who is already better then he is. ROTFL - where do you get this stuff? Uh, last time I checked Griffin rebounds much better than Smoove and blocks the same number of shots in seven less minutes per game. If Smoove is going to be our power forward, he needs to learn how to rebound, and fast. Smoove is only 20, Griffin has burned out of the league once or twice already.

I disagree, I don't see how they help. Jaric is on his second team now and he is still having difficulties holding down a starting job. He is not a real point guard and he is not a great shooter. He is an o.k. defender but cannot guard some of the quicker point guards in the league. Griffin is a nobody. He would just take minutes away from Smoove who is already better then he is. I just don't see the point, particularly when you factor in the money that will be paid to these guys and the roster spots they take up. The Hawks NEED a real point guard, not another combo guard. The Hawks NEED a real big man, one who is a tough interior defender and can rebound. Since the Hawks are still a bad team there is no point in trading for roll players - especially when those roll players are not necessarily better then current roll players (i.e. Smoove and Lue/Ivey).

That was a good trade by the Sonics. Wilcox gives them a lot more athleticism. Wilcox isn't as good a fit in Atlanta because he duplicates Smoove, but real good move by the Sonics.

Jaric and Griffin do not help the Hawks. Griffin is a marginal talent who is also a head case and Jaric is a combo guard that is way overpaid.

Denver would be foolish to do either of those deals. Franchise is no longer that valuable and does not fit Denver's need for good perimeter shooter.

Their loss our gain.

Quote: I think BK will draft the BPA, but trading the duplicated players we already have is what bothers me. I do not think he gets back par value on most of his player transactions. I sure hope he doesn't get "par value" back.

I think with Felton he is putting up good numbers but he is still doing alot of stupid stuff on the court which limits his on court impact. But the stats look good.

That is a mischaracterization of the Babcock era. None of his picks had an immediate impact, so you can't say he picked immediate impact over long term potential. Granted his picks lacked long term potential as well, but they certaintly did not make an immediate impact.

Wrong again. The player BK is most likely to lust after in the 2006 draft is Rudy Gay, and Rudy will be the pick if available. Then the Hawks will resign Harrington and role with a starting lineup of JJ, Gay, Williams, Smoove and Harrington.

Quote: Don't you need to dominate the Big 12 first. Um, we just drafted a guy second overall who didn't even start on his college team. So no, domination in college is not a requirement to being drafted early.

All of the team's want-to-be point guards stink, no need to single one out. I would really try and use Salim as trade bait - see if someone bites and values his shooting skills. Since he has no ability to play point guard he has no value to the hawks other then a 10 minute per game back-up to JJ, so might as well deal him for something the team needs.