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I think his market value will be on par with what Dalembert, Chandler and Curry got (although I am not sure what they did get). Is that around $50 million? I think that is a lot of money if the Hawks still intend to sign Smoove, Marvin and company down the line. Obviously the same money could go to Al, so it is hard to say.

Why did Denver trade for Kenyon Martin? I am asking because it seems like that was a huge mistake for them.

Heck no on Francis and his bloated contract, bad attitude and lack of real point guard skills.

There is a reason Orlando has been trying to unload him and why they have not been able to find any takers. Orlando realizes that they got absolutely fleeced on the McGrady deal and in no way should the Hawks be the ones that bail them out.

Spot on.

Agreed, but this is true of a lot of players.

Just to be fair, Jerome James looked like an all-world center in the play-offs last year. Obviously that was a fluke.

Well, Perkins and Salim are about the same age. Jermaine O'Neal did nothing his first few years and then blew up. Sure it is a risk but again, Salim is a 15 minutes per game guy on the Hawks at best after they get a point guard. Lue could serve a similar role.

Delk is not very good, the Hawks will be lucky to get anything for him. There are dozens of identical players (undersized two guards) that can be had.

The biggest difference between the two is attitude.

Kmart's contract is poison. The Hawks won't touch it.

I would do that trade. Salim is a nice player and all but with JJ firmly entrenched at shooting guard Salim will never be more then a back-up here - especially if the Hawks ever get a legitimate point guard. Perkins, remember, also has a chance to develop into something useful and I would much rather have a legit bigman then an undersized shooting guard.

Doesn't Nene have a season left on his contract or at least isn't he a restricted free agent?

Glenn Robinson during his first week as a Hawk. Of course, it was all downhill after that.

That's a good question. I think alot of people think Marvin has tremendous upside, which is understandable. That said, alot of people don't appreciate how good Chris Paul is or at least they won't acknowledge it.

Don't forget that Melo kid.

I would rather take my chances with signing Al in the off-season (either to keep or trade) then making a trade now that destroys what little chemistry the team now has and does not guarantee any improvement in the long run. There is no guarantee Nene will ever be as good as Zaza and Watson, while a significant improvement over what the Hawks currently have, is not the kind of dynamic floor general that creates opportunities for others. If the trade involved getting a talent like Devin Harris, Jarrett Jack, Shaun Livingston, Chris Paul, Deron Williams or Raymond Felton then I would be strongly inclined to consider it.

You need to consider the fact that Al's best chance of landing a large contract is with the Hawks. The Hawks do have a glut of forwards but right now it is premature to trade Al since Childress and Marvin are still very much unknown quantities. Neither Nene or Watson are exceptional talents.

It is a trade I would be more inclined to consider in the off-season as a sign and trade. But, it is not exactly a slam dunk trade as similar deals can be had in the off-season.

Well, it certaintly is a step in the right direction. But, 13 wins is historically bad, 27 is merely real bad. It is very hard to stay historically bad for a long time.

Less then 20 wins at this point would be cause for alarm.

Lets not jinks it! This recent "hot" streak has been great, and it is hard not to get excited about the nice core of JJ, Al, and Smoove that is developing. That said, to keep things in perspective, 27 wins is still pretty pathetic.

Well, they might still have the same problem after the trade. Both Nene and Watson are career back-ups. I definitely think Watson is an upgrade, and Nene may be if he ever gets his head in the game. He is an injury risk as well.

Looking at how things are shaking down though, the forward combo of Smith and Harrington seems quite strong. I say stay the course this season and evaluate in the off-season.

Keeping Al even at $10 million is cheaper then Watson and Nene - unless I am mistaken Watson is making $5+ million for the next several years and Nene needs to be signed, he will command at least $5+ million.

Because he stinks.

ROFL go post that on a Wizards or Lakers board and see what they say. Last I checked he was averaging 6 pts for the Lakers, making $8 million per year. lol

I know you are a big fan of 82games.com. Check this out and then tell me about his mad skills:

Swift and Kristic are duplicative of Zaza. I think the Hawks need someone more physical if they are going to trade for a big.

This is exactly what it boils down to. If the Hawks had a Michael Jordan, an unquestioned leader, then it is much easier to control/tolerate the one talented miscreant. The Hawks don't have a Michael Jordan - and a veteran coach with three rings, Artest would poison the Hawks lockerroom - particularly if Al is jettisoned in the process.

Artest is exactly like T.O., putting his needs before the needs of a team. I highly doubt BK would willingly bring such a time bomb into such a precocious locker room.

Problem with that is that you are assuming BK cares what someone else thinks - because normally he just does what he does and he doesn't care what people are saying.