Duff_Man

I guess the Hawks marketing department thought it would be cool for Deadspin to take over the account for a day.

SMH . . . we stay losing.

These two things are mutually exclusive. Engaging the fans is never a bad thing.

I dont want to paint the devil on the wall(though I am right now) but isnt it kind of a coincidence the Hawks have this many serious injuries? I mean the Atlanta med guy with the beard and Jeff Bridges hair looks like the pusher-man from that movie Flight. I mean I have been watching Dallas all year, and that team had like no injuries except 3-4 games without Marion, and that team is ollld.

In euro football its also often wrong training recovery programs that get blamed for when there is structually many injuries on rosters.

No amount of proper training in the universe can stop an ankle from turning like that.

Sometimes things are just not preventable.

What's so bad about that analysis?

Finally got to the office so I can answer this in a little more detail.

Firstly, I have an extremely difficult time following the rantings of people who are so pissed off at a team they supposedly love that they have to trash players on the team and then turn around and praise garbage on other teams. Biyombo? Seriously? If you hate us the Hawks that much that a scrub looks better than any Hawk, then why bother watching at all? You'll never be happy and just rant about god knows what and look like a baby in the process.

Secondly, I will never understand why fans these days want to fire everyone at the drop of a hat. Regardless of what you think of the moves made to the team, you don't just keep firing guys and turning over the structure of the team and expect better results. When you do, you become the Cleveland Browns. Sometimes things take more than one season to get going. Opportunities will arise, but they don't happen every day. It's taking the right opportunities and maximizing them for the benefit of a quality end product. Sometimes that means you have to take a temporary route to fill a roster. That's just life and sports business in general.

Thirdly, saying that the Hawks have no "talent" is using an ambiguous term to voice that you don't like a player/players. The team employs two All-Stars and yet they have no talent? It is a term that cannot be quantified. Yet when people put numbers up, it doesn't matter because somehow that doesn't measure talent.

If watching this Hawks team is so painful and detrimental to your life, then don't watch them. And if it so hard on you, then maybe watching sports isn't for you.

Duff man is a terrible poster on both the falcons board and this board. I really pay no attention to him ever.

How's Bismack doing, kiddo?

PHX is the best team but I like what Charlotte is doing the most. Zeller, McBob, Biymobo all are playing a role while Al is the lead. They play elite defense but they NEED a SG or else they are done for now and the future. Milwaukee is making good future moves killing their present. Atlanta is a bunch of f***ing clowns. From top to bottom. Damn, for coaches Jeff has done a great job but Coach Bud style would WORK in the regular season and playoffs with the right talent. Hornacek has been great tho. Clifford is a future stud. Al Jefferson right now given their personnel and coaching. It fits. Horf is the best player but Diesel said lead not best player of the group. Dragic and Al are damn impressive and Knight is up and coming.

You should give up basketball...no all sports. Seriously.

Diesel, go to realgm, create a thread saying Millsap to Orlando for a lotto pick. Come back and tell us what they think. I want to see if people see things more like me than you. Seeing how the NBA works, I know how they think like, I want to see if fans agree with you more than me.

RealGM: Where opinions are FACT. I get the feeling if you were a Cleveland fan, you'd be loving the "talent" (ambiguous, non-quantifiable term alert!) on other teams.

Awww...somone has a poopie in their diaper. So cute.

Teague really likes broth that much? Broth man, the oddest super hero ever

We should take "stock" in that.

No.. not at all. I followed Deron's lead...

Everybody believed that Deron was going to Dallas. IN fact, the first rendition of the Joe trade was conditional upon Deron resigning with the Nets (if I'm not mistaken). So without Joe, The Money didn't seem to have an effect on DW. Remember, DW just finished a HORRIBLE season with the Nets. Now maybe Deron is lying and it was all about the money for him... and that's possible... but ask yourself, how many superstar players want to take big money to play for a losing team who is not serious about winning?

How to appear to build a solid internet argument: Use non-quantifiable/ambiguous terms.

"Superstar"

"Everybody"

"Maybe"

"Possible"

"Big Money"

"Serious"

Words that look like you're making an argument, but in the end, it is still guess work and buzz words. Empty.

~41 Million dollars in savings for Ferry but what did we get?

We got rid of Allan Houston part 2. But I guess when you can pay 30+ year old Joe Johnson more than Lebron James, you spent wisely.

I have no reason not to believe you since you're likely sober at this time of the morning,

Leap of faith.

I bet that bad grammar must really get to you @Gray Mule as you are from a time when people actually learned proper grammar in school and cared about it.

I have a buddy who is a vice principal in a bad part of Philly. He has told me that correcting poor grammar is now considered racist and they have been instructed to not do it.

Not having to watch Josh Smith has been a tremendous life improvement for me.

Absolutely not impressed with last off-season. The drafting was cool, but the FA moves or lack thereof was VERY disappointing. How long until Ferry turns the created cap space into a team with true potential; either a winner or a young team with unlimited potential? Until we are in one of those two situations...blah.....

I mean we only added an All-Star.

Sounds like you're the one with some underlying feelings on this subject not me. My comment didn't reflect that at all and it's a reach at best for you to interpret it that way.

Geez. Don't take it personal.

It's a fair question and will continue to be one until the Hawks find another player of his caliber to sign here.

Assuming there is one available.

Why do I get the feeling that this is an attempt to blame DF for the fake free agency of Howard/Paul?

You would still have the same number of playoff games. All the East Execs right now would be wary of this while all the West Execs would be all over it -- actually, I say that but Atlanta's owners might be all over it this year so we wouldn't face the possibility of getting either the #15 pick or the #11 pick or something similar. Commish is supposed to make the call in these types of "zero sum" scenarios in the best interests of the long-term revenues, the fans, and the sport. Ultimately, it would probably take convincing a good number of East owners that they would make more money over the long-term by putting the best 16 teams in the playoffs.

Well except for missing out on the East Coast TV dollars that would be missed. If your "best teams" scenario was the case, you risk having many (most) games of interest starting at 10pm. Good luck with that for the advertising money. And good luck getting people to tune in for Spurs/Nets.

Another issue then is giving the Commissioner veto rights over playoff teams. No owner in their right mind would allow this. "best interests of the league" is great in theory, but no team owner would ever think that way. It would also affect free agency, etc. It's just not realistic. At that point, just let the fans vote for the playoff teams.

I love how all of the sudden people seem to think the franchise will never sign anyone ever again.

I really wish the NBA would de- Conference the playoffs... Just allow the best 16 teams in the playoffs.The Seahawks was the first team in NFL history to make the playoffs with a losing record. They beat the Saints that year when Brooks (Getting my Marshon's mixed up lol) Lynch invented beast mode. I know the NFL doesn't have 7-game series like the NBA, but if the Hawks end up as the 7-8th seed, we could still make some noise. First-round exit, but I could see us taking the Pacers/Heat to six games.Plus, even if we DO make it into the lottery, we likely won't get a pick better than 10 and IMO, the talent pool is strong 11-20. The 15-20th pick goes to playoff teams... Getting in the lottery would be ideal, but making the playoffs isn't a bad thing either.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Problem: What execs would agree to not having playoff games? You really think they'd give up the extra dollars? No chance.The system is fine.

I wish we could somehow get Bosh and Melo on the same team as the "stars". That would be the highest of comedy.

I donated to their Kickstarter and all I got was a minority ownership of the team.