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16 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Show me an example of Edey in the pick and roll where he isn’t just rolling to post up.  Show me an example where he is catching and scoring on the move and not rolling to just establish position in the post.  

Try YouTube!  Then you'll actually see some film on him.

@KB21 

Clint on offense. Post player with average conversion rate, no shot outside 5 feet. Sets picks, rolls to the basket comes out for handoffs to move the basketball at the top of the key. Clogs the lane, mishandles passes constantly. Weighs around 255 lbs. Superior offensive rebounder due to effort and living around the basket. Makes $24 mil/yr.

Edey on offense. Post player with superior conversion rate. Good hands and ability to pass out of the post. Sets picks and rolls to the basket. Unknown shooting ability. Comes out for handoffs and is an able passer from the top. Capable hands, holds ball high. Average to good ability to see the floor. Weighs 300lbs. Superior offensive rebounder due to size, commitment to boxing out and living near the basket. Rookie contract will be around $5mil/yr for 4 years.

Analysis - Edey should have a slightly better offensive impact than Capela almost immediately.

Defensively.

Clint better the farther from the basket you get. Edey better guarding bigs in the post and altering shots by drivers/slashers who have beat their man. Clint better at guarding 3 point shooters and stopping guards on the switch. Edey (drop coverage) better at stopping the lob/slash/dish.

Analysis: Both have flaws. Clint struggles against large bigs. Edey will struggle to stop good shooters who pull up or toss floaters.

When Edey becomes a 20/10 guy in the NBA, a lot of people will rightfully eat crow and say they were wrong.

It won't however stop them from being loud and wrong on the next guy.

Bruno has played well lately, but he was due for a stinker. Tonight has not been his night.  Matthews and Vit playing a bit lazy too.

4 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

This is looking like a Trap Game!

Get it together guys.

2-12 from 3 

That 3 possession series by Jalen just changed the game. 2 baskets out of it, but should have been 3.

They fooled around in that 1st quarter and found out that you can't look past any team in the NBA.

10 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

Playing defense makes you so much more consistent!

A little loose with the ball but effort looks good.

Settled in, hoping we don't look past these guys.

1 hour ago, GameTime said:

I kinda want to draft Edey just so we can be the most hated team in the NBA.... even by our own fans....

Best comment of the entire thread (barring my own)!

11 hours ago, Peoriabird said:

also a Team defense rating of 116.9 vs 121.9 helps as well while the offensive rating doesn't suffer as much 117.5 vs 120

Net rating with Young -2 vs +.6 without

So no Bey in the lineup helps with that defensive rating. He was terrible at close outs.

D@MN IT!!! you got me on my soapbox.  Edit gets about 40 touches per game. Do you honestly think he's only gets fouled 9.6 times per game.

12 hours ago, Hawkmoor said:

His entire tournament has been like that.  The refs and media are ACTIVELY trying to make this guy be great.   I mean he is hooking players like you said, jumping over folks backs for rebounds and setting moving screens and the whistle is silent.  You barely touch HIM and its free throws.   All this for a bench player in the NBA who might give you a few minutes.

come on....you could quite literally call a foul against whomever is guarding Edey every trip down the floor...

This thread needs some honesty. I'll start.

Zach Edey has some built in limitations (mobility, outside shooting and that big man fear he's too big for his feet to the take the pounding).

The game is called different against players like Edey who are hacked, undercut, held, hooked on almost every attempt.  When you are going to miss obvious calls that benefit a player, the whistle has to be loose going the other way as well. You can't call every time Edey breathes on someone if you are not going to call the 30 fouls against him that go uncalled every game.

40/16 and fouled out 2 people.

Those watching Brook Lopez vs the Hawks tonight and seeing the problem he's being. I'll remind you he's 3 inches shorter and 18lbs lighter than Edey.

WTF? Vit is guarding Lopez?

11 minutes ago, kg01 said:

You're kind of amazing, tcampst. 

- Rich Homie B. 

Its about time I got my flowers.

1 hour ago, NBASupes said:

22 and?

That's not a knock believe or not, especially if you have high mental acuity. It means you understand what you are doing and can help a team immediately. I want 4 year players on my team especially if they know what they are doing. I've been saying for years, the Warriors biggest advantage was having 3 upperclassmen as their best players. Steph, Klay, and Green. 

If you know as much about the modern NBA as you claim, you would know that this is a BBIQ era we are in. That's most important and the teams lacking in that department are the teams you see not winning shit. 

You keep talking about Edey as if he was this 1st rounder in previous years when he wasn't. Even me, his biggest advocate wasn't pushing for him even once last year. He massively improved and added a modern NBA skill set, mastered it and that's why he's extremely high on my board and why he's a lottery pick to some GMs and hopefully ours when the time comes. 

People forget he never played basketball until 9th grade when he hit 6'10" and couldn't play hockey anymore. He didn't even learn to guard till his junior year in high school. He's kind of amazing when viewed through that lens.

"It's a rare occurrence, like a double rainbow or someone on the internet saying, "you know what, you convinced me. I was wrong""  Michael, The Good Place.

11 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Actually, I'm torn between Rich Homie Boban and Rich Edey Boban.  Ah, I'll get it sorted by the draft.

And, on the laziness, I'm thinking him literally standing in the lane for full defensive possessions might be frowned upon at the next level.

- Rich Homie B? 

If you ever watched Bruno in college, his feet were glued to the lane.

4 minutes ago, kg01 said:

I'm seeing rich man's Boban.

If we draft him, I'm changing my name to 'Rich Homie Boban'. 

He gets hacked so much, refs get numb to it. People just hanging off of him on put back attempts.

27 minutes ago, KB21 said:

Gonzaga has that elbow jumper the entire game.  They are taking advantage of Edey’s lack of speed vs the pick and roll.  

Not gonna lie, laziest game I've seen from him in a while. Quiet 11 point 1st half.

Purdue v Gonzaga tipoff incoming. If you're watching, thread your impressions of Edey here.

1 minute ago, AHF said:

That should be a really good game.  I’m excited to watch it and the variety and strength of opinions on this thread do make it more interesting still.  
 

I don’t disagree that you take the most impactful player on the board unless they are almost certain to be there with your next pick.  That said, I would feel a lot better about taking Edey with the Sacramento pick if we are going to do it just because I feel like there will be some intriguing options at 10 that won’t be there under any circumstances closer to 20.  Edey seems like the hardest player to predict in terms of draft slot that I can remember in some time.

We'll lets be fair here too, there is bound to be the potential to package a pick + piece to move up from 18(ish) or the potential to pick something up and move down from 10.

If we've done anything in this thread, we're going to push a lot of Squawkers to watch Purdue v Gonzaga tonight at @7:30 to take a real time look at Edey.

DH 11 boards now.