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Playing Devil's advocate, Dennis put up the numbers he did playing mostly with an under-performing bench. It is reasonable to assume that Dennis, playing with the starters, 1 year older, and with Dwight receiving easy assist opportunities, would see a net improvement in his stats. Last year, Teague posted a 17.98 PER, while Schröder posted a 15.62. His 15.62 PER was good enough for 21st best PG. Teague's 17.98 qualified him as 14th. It is reasonable to assume that Schröder could /should move into the top 15 with the starters, Dwight, experience.

If I could start a team with Cousins and Aldridge and then fill the roster from there, I am confident you could build a championship roster. I've always looked at those 2 players and they look like the natural complimentary front line.

I can't understand the hate for the Volt green....I love it (then again I'm red green color blind).

Actually, I disagree. With a big who doesn't go to the basket, the opposing center is free to cheat and help on penetration. Leaving Howard to stop Dennis' penetration = easy dunks for Howard. Howard = keeping the opposing center honest on D.

Edy has already been assigned to the D-League.

Good Organizations get exceptional value outside of the top 10 picks.

and you can't draw fouls either.

Horford % of offense coming inside. 2014-15 - 33% 2013-2014 - 35% 2012-2013 - 37% 2011-2012 - 41% 2010-2011 - 33% 2009 -2010 - 49% 2008 - 2009 - 44% Can't even blame it on the pectoral tears...the first wasn't until 2011/12. In 2012/13 we ran Josh Smith out of town for shooting outside too much....he shot 44% of his shots inside that year.....Horford has shot less inside for 5 straight years. Now as a comparison....since 2008, Howard's low % inside was 68%...his highs (2009-2010 Orlando) 87%, (2008/2009 Orlando) 83%. This is what a true center does and is why his rebounding numbers are so high. Can't rebound consistently if you aren't near the basket.

The Warriors lost 6 rotation players to free agency/Durant, the Cavs lost 3 (Smith/Mosgov/Delly). The Hawks, added...trading Dwight for Horford, Delaney/Jack for Teague/Patterson and having Splitter/Korver healthy (not to mention the rookies). I wanted to compare the 3 rosters for an honest look. In all cases, I will consider defensive impact as well. Format 5>3>1 points. PG - Dennis vs Irving vs Curry. The obvious answer here is Warriors>Cavs>Hawks. SG - Baze vs Shumpert vs Thompson I think its fair to say Warriors>Hawks>Cavs SF - Korver vs Lebron vs Durant Cavs > Warriors > Hawks PF - Millsap vs Love vs Green So here we have Cavs > Hawks > Warriors C - Howard vs Thompson vs Pachulia Pretty obvious here again Hawks > Cavs > Warriors Subtotal starters - Hawks(13), Cavs (17), Warriors(15) Bench rotational players Sefalosha, Delaney, Humphries, Splitter, THj. vs Frye, Williams, Kaun, Dunleavy, Jefferson vs Iggy, West, Livingston, and who knows Hawks>Cavs>Warriors Emergency replacements. The Cavs have only rookies and min players...the Warriors have rookies and 2 spots to fill. The Hawks have Jack, Moose, Edy, Scott. Adv Hawks > Cavs > Warriors. To the casual fan, the assumption is that the Warriors got better. But through injuries last year, the Warriors depth carried them through a few sparse injuries. Injuries to any of the Warriors starters leaves grocery baggers getting significant minutes. The Cav's bench is in better shape, but the loss of JR Smith, the team's best wing defender, is a very big loss. The Hawk's bench situation is only tenuous with the loss of Dennis/Howard. The loss of James would be a disaster for the Cavs, the loss of either Irving or Love would be significant but they could limp through. But the Warriors lost so much to get Durant, the loss of any of their 2 starters would be horrendous. I'm thinking the rosters are much closer than people give them credit for.

Comparing Howard and Horford yet again, Shots by percentages last year Shot type Howard Horford Dunk - 14% - 4% Close - 48% - 21% Jumper - 27% - 67% Other - 12% - 7% Dunk or Close up, Howard shot 62% of his shots, Horford 25%. Or, per 82games.com, Howard 73% of his shots come inside, Horford, 33%....as a center, this is terrible for spacing. To put that into perspective, in 2014/15....Pero Antic was at 24% inside. Horford got so soft, he was almost Pero.

Here you go....the Dwight effect. Dwight played in 71 games last year....176 dunks. All you need to see is the first dunk. He just steam rolls another player, unlike anything you ever saw from Horford.

I think the 3 pt thing will change as well based on Dwight's presence. Because Horford was so soft in the middle, Splitter was out most of the year and Hump was only a late addition, teams abandoned playing post defense against the Hawks. We had a lot of contested 3 point attempts last year. Adding a true big in the middle, forces the opposing center to play honest and in some situations, forces an opposing wing to lag to offer help down low, creating space for a shooter. This is one of the most misunderstood effects of Horford on the floor for us (and one I mentioned in a previous post). Horford does not require a double team in the post. Post play almost always requires a help defender and in some cases a pure double (depending on the center). But Horford almost never drew a double in the pure post. Teams were willing to lay off and take the their chances with Horford in the post. Horf got most of his points from short jumpers or movement plays, but not the post. In Dwight, an early entry pass (see the video posted in the other thread about how to properly use Dwight), forces the other team to collapse in help. The creates space for the wings and begins the around the horn 3 point passing. Horford does not give you this. This should create more open looks and an all around increase in 3 pt percentage for the team.

I have the solution to your issue. Go outside and find an adjustable hoop. Shoot 10 free throws...mark your results. Drop it to 7 feet and shoot 10 more...mark your results. I have done this. You would be amazed at how hard it is to shoot free throws for taller players. When you can't see the bottom of the basket, it throws off depth perception. I can shoot a solid 80% easy on a regulation hoop. Drop that puppy to 7 ft and I'm barely 60%. For a 6' point guard, free throws is a basic (and somewhat natural) skill. But for very tall players, that hoop moves on them without the normal depth perception.

My guess is because it gives him leverage going toward trial in negotiating a plea deal. If you plea early, there is no incentive to the state to avoid a trial. The more money the state has to throw at it, the more incentive to lower the charges in exchange for a changed plea. He can change his plea deep into the process with no negative consequences to himself.

Measurables wise....he is a Scottie Pippen clone out of college. Pippen 6'7", 212, 7' wingspan. Prince 6'7", 220, 6'11.5" wingspan. Hard to compare stats because Pippen dominated at a much smaller college level (Central Arkansas) and against weaker competition. But style of play, size, defensive presence, the two are very comparable.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/atlanta-hawks/cap/ now shows Scott's contract as guaranteed. Including the 2 first round draft picks, this puts us at 16 players. So unless we drop 2, no Hump.

Maybe the best thing about the pick from my perspective is that so many NBA draft picks are based off "potential". The say, "if he grows into his frame" or "if he works on his post up game"...etc. Prince has an NBA body...right now. He has NBA body control...right now (6-7", 7ft wingspan, 220lbs). For players with athleticism, control of your body is one of the hardest things to manage....lots of fouls, lots of turnovers related to trying to do too much. Prince not only can jump out of the building, he can play within himself. He can already shoot the 3 and with Hawks U, I see a better shooter down the road. He isn't Jordan, but he is a projected NBA starter. He is a hair smaller than Marvin out of college, but far more athletic, in control and far more passionate about his craft.

What do you see? 13 of first 4 plays....he's creating for himself. Play 5, the create step before the dunk is really, really hard to do....that play right there is what you want to see....that kind of body control/athleticism.

IMHO, failure to waive Scott at this point is a insanity. I can't believe it is 5:30 on Saturday evening and Scott is still a Hawk.

2007-2008 Orlando - 52-30 2008-2009 Orland0 - 59-23 2009-2010 - Orlando - 59-23 2010-2011 Orlando - 52-30 2011-2012 Orlando (66 game season) - 37-29 (46 win season). Over that 5 year period average 53.6 - 28.4. 2012-2015 Orlando average record - 22.7 wins per season (after Dwight left). 2010-2011 Orlando roster for comparison to 2016 Hawks C- Howard - C - Howard (young howard = adv Orlando) PF - Bass PF - Millsap (LOL - adv Hawks) SF - Turkoglu SF- Korver (even) SG - Reddick SG - Bazemore (LOL again..adv Hawks) PG - Nelson PG - Dennis (adv Hawks) Bench - - -- Bench (evenish....Arenas/Carter on last legs....very old/slow Orlando bench...Gortat still learning) Richardson Splitter Richardson Sefolosha Anderson Hardaway Arenas Tavares Duhon Patterson Lewis Prince Carter Bembry Gortat Delaney Basically, the current Hawks squad...especially if Hump comes back is greater than the squad for Orlando that averaged 53+ wins a season.

Yes....94+8 = 102.

at the end of the interview they ask him if he would consider shooting underhand like Onuaku and says, "uh. NO!". Then they say, "Onuaku, shot 59% from the free throw line shooting those shots underhand." Dwight answers, "That's amazing, I'm happy for him". LMAO....I'll give him that...he's not gonna change for anyone.

Just to be clear, I wasn't impressed with Patterson last night in summer league. He looked foot slow. In the last 5 minutes of the game, he attempted to take the opposing big off the dribble (which is butter for any jet PG in the league), the big matched him stride for stride and swatted the weak layup off the backboard...just like practice. I'm thinking Patterson is just too hesitant/foot slow for PG.

Somehow I missed this. Someone else mentioned it in another post. The projected cap for next year is rising by $8 million, not $13 million. For the Hawks who will still be in prime position, it only revises down the amount of salary they can take in next year. But for teams that overspent in free agency this year....Boston, GS, San Antonio, Chicago, NY, Cleveland....it really hamstrings their flexibility going forward. I'm really liking the Hawks in 2017-2018. I'm thinking you are going to see a number of trades involving teams trying to acquire 1st round draft picks. Those low starting salaries are going to be gold when trying to acquire big name free agents. Having 2 picks this year and 1 next year really helps the Hawks by tying up 3 roster slots with only about $4.5 million in total salary.

From what I saw from Bembry last night, I am very excited to see Prince.