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13 minutes ago, Final_quest said:
Question is if the entire league is looking at paying Hunter his full contract and thinking, "Ugh that's gross." Honest question about his value.
There's a feeling that Hunter is better than he's showing on the Hawks. Feeling that he has less room to work with Capela always in the lane, Trae demanding the ball so much. The feeling is on a team with a ranged center, etc, Hunter could evolve into a very good iso option/2nd option. I don't see him having that much talent but it only takes 1 team paying that for him.
There is also no knowing what the offers/discussions are yet and who started them (us/them).
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But if we start seeing stories on this, trade proposals in the digitals papers about it, we'll know this is legit chatter.
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Short update: Hunter
Trade chatter has started up in the background around Hunter. Nets, Philly, Charlotte, Clips, Portland around teams mentioned with interest. I haven't looked at what the trades would be. This is early in the chatter.Low chance anything gets done before camp but interesting there's been conversations again.
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1 hour ago, warcore said:
Cam Reddish is Randy Moss's Dad
I see what you did there.
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6 minutes ago, Phunkabilly said:
Agree with all your points except about Hunter being the best 3 point shooter over Griffin and Bey. I think Griffin is clearly the better three point shooter, with Hunter and Bey being pretty close to each other.
Even though I'm a huge JJ stan, my hope is that Bey and Hunter start with JJ coming off the bench, so long as JJ gets 20+ mpg (preferably 25+ mpg). I really really like him out there with the second unit with Trae/Bogi or DJ/Bogi as opposed to getting most of his minutes with the starters with Trae/DJ. To really maximize his skillset, he needs the ball in his hands a decent amount, and I think that's much more likely to happen with the second unit as opposed to having the Trae/DJ duo dominate the ball. Bey and Hunter aren't really playmakers, so they would probably fit in with the Trae/DJ duo better.
I think Griffin will be. He fell off end of the year and Hunter finished with the better % which is why I mentioned it. Those are the reasons that will be cited when 1 player or another wins the role.
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The camp battle 4 people, 2 spots.
Why Johnson over Bey at the 4: Johnson makes his opponent work. He moves without the ball (and with). He makes the defense work as he's always a threat to pass. Good hands and makes rebounding look easy.
Why Bey over Johnson at the 4: Bey shoots a better percentage from 3. Bey hustles. Not normal hustle, the guy never gives up on a play. You reward that. He's next level hustle.
Why Bey over Griffin/Hunter at the 3: see above, hustle. Best rebounder at 3 and best hair. Bey makes defenders work harder.
Why Hunter over Griffin/Bey at the 3: Best 3 point shooter. Best 1v1 defender, more versatile defender. The contract. Decent drive and score game 1v1.
Why Griffin over Hunter/Bey at the 3: Best potential 3 point shooter. Best team defender. Highest bbiq. Best handles.
Camp battle will be fun. We will see if DH has been working privately or not.
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2 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:
Clint working on a hook shot:
They do that in a game, center taking ball from right of elbow to left free throw line, into paint and hook and guards are gonna steal that all day. You're just begging for a 2 guard to double that.
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3 hours ago, Peoriabird said:
Are the Hawks working on extensions for OO and Bey? Rather quite on that front this summer. Any updates?
Yes? Not really sure. Its never been mentioned to me. My assumption is yes but since neither has secured a starters position (yet), its not in their best interest to extend yet.
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10 minutes ago, JeffS17 said:You had me excited until I read this and now I'm not sure what to believe or not
You can believe it. This is all related to the DH stuff I posted end of season with him and Quin trying to coach him up. Everyone has been given orders for what to work on. Many of the guys have been using team supplied private coaching to work on areas of their game to better fit them into the new system.
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36 minutes ago, NBASupes said:They might not have a choice but to consider it. It's unlikely they go through with it and the price tag is going to be most ever. I was told, no one can afford the price tag recently.
As for those who want to know if the Hawks will make a major move before the season. I was told no, they are sticking with what they got about over a month ago.
Things could change in December or January. That said, the progress reports are back and people within are saying everyone is making major improvements this offseason. Shooting being the biggest focus. Even got Intel that Capela is working on his shot and off ball shooting.
Yep and gone are the days of trying to feature someone to up their trade value. Lost possessions due to the front office wanting people featured has had a line in the sand drawn.
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Waiving VIT creates space under the 2nd LT line. Renouncing Trent Forrest would clear up another 1.8 million (stay with me here). The space created in trading both would leave us a near 24 million under the super apron. Almost exactly the amount available in the JC trade exception.
I don't think they'd use it here but I do think they'd potentially use it at the trade deadline if we are competing.-
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9 minutes ago, bird_dirt said:
She’d probably run through a wall to get to a ball.
"I jumped a fence??? What fence?"
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The dried kiwi. All of the dogs like it. I have no idea if any is good for them so I just break off a tiny bit but they all love it.
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On 7/22/2023 at 9:09 AM, bird_dirt said:
The doofus is now up to 70lbs at 10 months.
She’ll end up a little bigger than I expected.
LOL. Consider yourself lucky. Dash is 95 lbs now, is on a digging holes kick and has taken to begging me for bites of dried kiwi.
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10 hours ago, TwolvesFan77 said:Is there still KAT to ATL steam? It’s been quiet in MNs end for most of the off-season other than saying they are going to run it back.
I didn't mean to revive that with my statement on the Siakam stuff was meant as a fall back / leverage plan. The KAT stuff died a few weeks after the draft with a plan to revisit in Sept. I only know so much and so if I were to guess if we make a major move before camp begins, I'd say the chances are less than 30%, probably closer to 15-20%. Most every move Atlanta could make relies on acquiring an overpriced player without giving up Trae or Murray (1 of which now can't be traded for a while).
I thought I was clear weeks ago but nothing is hot now as all parties are at an impasse and that only improves in Sept.
The only exception to that was Dallas tried to revive Clint talks by involving a 3rd party but Atlanta hasn't bitten on that and Dallas just signed an emergency center. Tells me that's dead now too.
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Alright! Time for a giant distraction for all squawkers. Next time you want to flame a poster here over their Hawks' fandom, remember that you aren't Japanese and we don't have Hiyama Saya
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People on this board have asked why we say "we can't talk about that yet" or "I'm allowed to say". This nonsense with Siakam is a perfect example of why teams hate leaks. Think of all the names linked to the Siakam deal and all of the make nice the teams are having to do with the players involved. No one wants to play in Canada. If you were Clint, Hunter, Griffin, etc....how would you feel right now knowing your team was planning on moving you to Canada without your consent?
and I blame the Hawks here. The whole Siakam thing was a fall back plan/leverage plan in the KAT negotiations. They should have been tighter in all of it.
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People could save themselves a lot bruises on the tips of their typing fingers if they'd read here:
Dallas submitted multiple offers to the Hawks who didn't move on either (should have heard something by this past weekend). We didn't, so assuming Dallas part of all this nonsense with Capela is dead too. The Pascal stuff was dead 2 weeks+ ago.
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5 hours ago, Diesel said:
He said.. DeAndre Hunter... Meh...
The trade doesn't fit the CBA. Over $7 million variance in the salaries....If people are going to claim fake trades, could they at least try it in a trade machine first? Is that too much to ask?
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1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:
It's the dark quiet days of the offseason.
I was just remarking to my wife that mid-season I was complaining about how under achieving we were and how hard of a time I was watching. I missed quite a few games. It's making this offseason feel incredibly long now.
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8 hours ago, JayBirdHawk said:
Some of that working we were talking about.
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1 hour ago, JayBirdHawk said:
5 NBA Offseason Trades That Can Still Happen
The Trade: Dallas Mavericks acquire Clint Capela from the Atlanta Hawks for Tim Hardaway Jr., Josh Green and a 2025 second-round pick (via TOR).
To bring aboard their sought-after shot-blocking, board-hoarding center, the Mavericks have to cough up a package headlined by Josh Green, a promising connective wing who can cut, pass on the move, defend and hit open threes. If he can replicate the 40.2 percent he shot from distance last year, Green, still just 22, could be a huge get for the Hawks.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10083892-5-nba-offseason-trades-that-can-still-happen
@thecampster. Is the the Dallas 'overpay' you mentioned?
Messaged you on this.
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9 minutes ago, Hawkish said:
What would you consider a slight overpay?
The overpay would most likely go to the 3rd team, not us, to get them to accept the salary we wouldn't want.
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Small update:
The social media stuff / Grant Shirley leak with Clint Capela is because Dallas has pivoted to trying to find a 3rd team to facilitate a deal with Atlanta. Dallas willing to slightly overpay. Nothing imminent as of yesterday. This leads me to believe, the Siakam stuff is dead. Dallas trying to avoid this dragging on till Atlanta has more options in September.
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Steve Koonin
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4:53 on the clock, Koonin specifically calls out that Jalen Johnson will be like us getting a new player. We're excited, Quin Snyder is excited, etc....he insinuates Jalen Johnson is why we didn't make a big trade.
Get on board folks. That's the way they want to go.