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17 minutes ago, Watchman said:

The math doesn't agree with you either. 3+5=8.  There are 82 games in a season.  Simple observation implies at least 30 wins, based on 80 games, perhaps 31 based on rounding with the 2 additional games.

3+6=9  9/82= .101   3/.101 = 29....you're both wrong.

Yay now I got to make people feel dumb....okay all better now.

FYI 29 is still 12 less than 41.  But since Trae was out 9 games and we were 38/35 when he played that means if he's played every game we would have been 42.7 and 40.3.....so technically a 13.7 game difference between Trae/noTrae....however the sample size is too small to draw any real conclusions.

Let me show you this in action see below.

See the below, which shows the stories generated post draft. 3 teams actively discussed.....Detroit, Indy, Dallas.

Also notice the words used.  Detroit / Indy articles showing what a potential trade would look like.  Dallas article explaining why they turned it down (damage control).  This stuff is leaked to journalists with generic deal frameworks to see if the fanbase would be pro/against...ie.  would it generate buzz.  For teams not expecting to be top 8, this is their world...revenue generation.

Now prior to the draft (6 days prior), I engaged with a member of the board (not the insider private thread) to tell them this was going on. see screenshot below.  The conversation was much deeper than just this snippet and involved other stuff as well all of which came out before draft night.  I held back info because I was pretty annoyed by the pushback from some members of the board.

The Hunter conversation.  I alluded last week to sitting on something and I talked with others on the board about this but before hiring Quinn, we almost blew it up and moved forward with Prunty.  This is all related to the coach flare ups over playing time, Nate's system.  Had we not hired Nate, we would have reloaded/rebuilt with Prunty (Prunty is not a name that attracts free agents though players are fond of him).  Staying would have been Trae, OO, AJ, JJ and anyone we couldn't move for prospects. 

Schlenk was forced out over the team disconnect with Nate and most importantly, when Huerter was blowing up in Sacramento, it led to the Resslers needing to go in a different direction.  Landry was hired for a rebuild, not a reload....Quinn changed that.  I'm holding back a bit but you get the gist.  The team has been reassessing ever since.

Dallas almost bit on their Hunter deal but in the end couldn't pull the trigger. There were 3 frameworks with Dallas, 1 centered on CC, one on JC and 1 on DH.  Dallas is afraid they're about to miss their window with Luka.  Luka loves LA and wants that spotlight. Luka would take a move to NY in a heartbeat.  Dallas is doing whatever they can to keep him happy.

42 minutes ago, JTB said:

what can our insiders let us know?

Most of the things discussed pre-draft are still on the table.  There are advantages to some getting done before June 30, some to after June 30th....nothing worth really discussing, just advantages being in front of others, getting done first, lining up your ducks.

All of the stories you see in the paper right now are "temperature checks". This is normal team OSINT for fan bases.  You push articles through partner journalists to see how the fan base reacts. How the comments react, how message boards respond, private polls of season ticket holders.  

Works like this...post rumor mill you'll see journalists publish "proposed" or "rumored" trades.  They'll include player names and sometimes multiple scenarios.  People being people will sound off in the comments with "hell yah" or "I don't want that scrub".  They'll pull in what they can get and determine how those changes would affect ticket sales, enthusiasm, etc. This survey of the fanbase pushes about 1/4 of trades over the finish line.

A smidge of team thinking.....Only about 6-10 teams a year believe they can compete that year and only about 1/2 of teams think they can seriously compete the next 3 years.  For everyone else, their moves are as much or more about tickets sales, tv ratings. Its a business.  So they're pushing buttons to see if acquiring player X creates a buzz.  That's what Indy is/was doing with DH.  Seeing if acquiring him would give their fanbase hope, increase ticket sales. You can watch these articles and temperature check how teams feel about their own chances. If they're temperature checking their fanbase, they don't think they can compete this year or the next few but they still want your money.

Baseball is notorious for this.  Every time they acquire a player, are making a trade...billboards are up 12 hours later....its all planned for hype.  Gotta get those ticket sales in before July when those same teams dump salary.

As for "new" info. There won't be anything significant, different that draft night until right before July 6th when trades can be completed....usually beings about 3 days before.

2 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

Neither is the Mavs deal from what I’m hearing per my sources. 

By the end of the night, we could have a few new pieces, 7 and 10. But Clint and DH will be gone.

7 minutes ago, JayBirdHawk said:

Another trade in the Eastern Conference seemed to derail as it approached the finish line Tuesday night. The Indiana Pacers and Atlanta Hawks were making headway on a deal that would have sent De'Andre Hunter to the Pacers, league sources told Yahoo Sports, but talks ultimately broke apart. Further details of the framework are still unknown, but as the Hawks have consistently looked at deals that could help Atlanta jump from No. 15 into the top 10 of this draft, the Pacers were not willing to swap the No. 7 pick in those discussions for Hunter, sources said. 

FYI, The Indy deal is not dead, Indy is just weighing what else is out there. Barring another partner stepping up, this will resurface by the draft.

No go ahead to say much but if something hits the news about why Nate/Schlenk left and it involves the assistant coaches, the young guys, Huerter's departure and the long term deals handed out, you heard it here first.

I might be able to post something tonight. Something I've sat on since Nate left. Might hit media in a day or two.

The Ayton thing is a little more than exploratory at this point. We're working a few things with overlapping pieces. Main reason Capela isn't included yet is because he's in a few other possibilities. All 3 of he, Collins and Hunter are being worked right now. Other complication is teams asking about including either JJ or AJ in deals.