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Boy do I hear that one late at night a lot!!!

Hype gen plant articles...I love it.

I thought I was clear earlier. Bogi's lingering knee issues have almost certainly killed that deal. He was central to getting it done. The Suns were waiting on the health of both players, not just Clint.

A related thought here, is OO/Clint's inability to draw their man away from the basket with outside shooting just gives players like Zubac a chance to play to his strengths.

Whoever had 2 missed layups by Capela in the 1st quarter, please pick up your winnings at the Squawk betting window.

I organized this per36 chart by Rebounds to get the bigs to the top. I've highlighted some numbers to prove my point. Remembering that Collins is on the floor with Trae as much or more than any other player catching lobs and it ups his FG%. Jalen's numbers are in line with both Collins and OO. That Kaminsky gets 4.3 a/36 is also impressive. With clint out so long, the minutes distribution was a travesty when most of our issues were with rebounds, interior defense.

totals this year Player Minutes PTS FG% 3PTFG% Assists Stls Rebounds blks A. Holiday 682 196 41.9 42.4 62 26 59 10 JJ 673 240 47.4 28.6 44 22 169 21 J. Holiday 405 121 37.7 34.1 24 5 23 10 Kaminsky 168 69 57.1 47.8 20 4 36 1 Lets look at it as PER36 numbers. Player PTS Reb Assists Stls Blks Kaminsky 14.8 7.7 4.3 .9 .2 J. Johnson 12.8 9.0 2.4 1.2 1.1 J. Holiday 10.8 2.0 2.1 .4 .9 A. Holiday 10.3 3.1 3.3 1.4 .5 Jarrett Culver has a higher p36 ppg/FG%/Reb/Stl rate than Holiday....let that sink in. from a PER36 standpoint, JJ and OO are nearly twins. with the big issue being JJ takes 3 attempts and couldn't hit them to start the year dragging down his percent. OO doesn't stretch the floor but it bumps his FG% dramatically. Coaching staff has argued minutes for players all year.

They were showcasing him first 20+ games...backfired.

One last nugget. There may be some discontent on Nate's staff with ownership. The push to showcase talent and take minutes from Griffin, Johnson and Kaminsky. A few on his staff believe in Johnson and Kaminsky from a defensive presence standpoint. All believe in Griffin. The ownership message is two-sided between win now and help us get value in trades. Do not be surprised if there's a writeup on this in the media early next week or maybe held back to right after the deadline.

Hawks attempts to showcase Bogi for a trade seem to have backfired with all interest in deals where Bogi is included have cooled. Teams don't trust his knees. You might as well drive past that. Something might happen but it doesn't look good. Attempts to showcase the Holiday brothers have also backfired with neither drawing much interest (and may have cost us a few wins).

Bogi's no back to backs and listing of more knee pain has teams less than tepid and he's monkeywrenching any/everything. Teams do not want to take that risk.

3 minute mark when he starts setting screens

Adams may not even be from this planet. I don't fear many people, but I would never start anything with that cat. He's built different.

I sincerely doubt Shannon Sharpe's geriatric, 40lbs overweight self wants anything to do with Steven Adams.

Some timing things to consider. The trade deadline is Feb 9th (22 days). The Hawks have a 2 day gap on Feb 4-7 which is a good window for trades. I'd be surprised to see something major before then. But 2 days off is a lot of time in the NBA and a perfect window for a large deal to get the new players in town before the next game. If you cross trade 6 players 2000 miles apart, it leaves you short players for the next game. Something to consider.

I'll talk about it...I was trying to keep a low profile since I don't get much these days and have been on the board less, doing work stuff more. Per the old source who was most accurate the last 2 years, he says there is a proposed deal in place that was waiting on Clint's health. I questioned it but when I trade machined it, the salaries matched exactly and the trade seems like a win for both clubs, better fits. I can see both teams benefitting. Crowder and Ayton both would benefit from a change of scenery. The only thing that gives me pause is them putting another giant salary next to Collins/Young/Murray. Since I got some secondary source confirmation from @Sothron, I'd bump this to a 50-60% likely rumor. This doesn't mean it will get done or these are the final pieces. @NBASupes couldn't confirm and that bothers me a bit. He has some west coast insight. The thing is, its early in this trade deadline season and a lot of teams are feeling each other out. We might get outbid or someone might come in and outbid Phoenix. But a framework was discussed per the source and something along the lines of "lets revisit this once Capela proves he's healthy."

still here, flying under the radar

Huerter is 15th on the list.....just sayin

Curious if the West Coast trip messes with the rest of you like it does me. Watching games is a rhythm thing to me and it just throws me off.

Nobody but me....

25 games have come and gone and I raised a few eyebrows in this thread when I mentioned I had some preconceived notions (see here: ). I received private messages after saying this but managed to keep my mouth shut. Before the 2018 draft, I was one of the few posters actively campaigning for Trae Young. I wanted a heads up point guard and believed the team would people players around him to help him grow, cover for his short comings. In the interim, the team has consistently favored undersized players to pair with Trae, further exasperating the team's defensive woes. They've drafted small and fast at every position, trying to run when you have a guard who doesn't run, he dissects. Then, there's Trae's immaturity. There, I said it. I've given him 4 years but despite his high assist rate, he's a shoot first point guard who wastes possessions on the regular on long 3's, unnecessary 1v1's and chest puffing. Trae's father's constant social media nonsense and Trae's me first attitude has created a terrible Karma problem. The me first stuff down the stretch has cost us 2 losses recently (almost 3). I questioned when the trade happened that sooner rather than later the Hawks would regret the Huerter trade. The improvement in the Kings and their good Karma and the shooting woes of these Hawks shows me I may be right here. The Huerter trade away was a huge step back for the team. Not in talent but in cohesion, good feels, team play. John Collins is palpably hurting from Trae's time on the floor and he might as well be dealt at this point. He and Trae no longer pair well and I honestly hope for him to be in a situation that appreciates and uses him. I love Dejaunte but I fear a trade away of Trae will sour him on the situation here. Griffin is great. Johnson is being wasted, barely getting shots, limited minutes and being forced to do things to cover for others' wants/needs. I've over Capela and I'm not sold on Bogi's health. It is what it is. Trae is amazing, but if the Hawks do walk away from him at this point, I'm okay with it. His impact is no longer in line with his stats. He needs to grow up and see the team game or we need to move on. I take no pleasure in writing this. I've been a huge fan of his before he got here but I'm a Hawks fan first.

All things I've long suspected!!!

You don't want none of this. I've been on the carnivore diet and now I'm only 50 lbs above my fighting weight!!! I can get a full 6 inches off the ground now and the ball actually fits between my legs when I cross over. (+50 skills).