thecampster

Just now, h4wkfan said:

I could be mistaken, but if we get someone to take Harkless. that would give us enough $ to sign Rife + up to~4M and change while staying under the LT? 

Trading Harkless for a 2nd rounder wouldn't create the full million. Remember that's another roster spot you have to fill. Vet min average is $2 million. So yes it creates some salary but we're going to operate over the LT this year barring another trade.

7 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

And Atlanta has to add one of Coop or Martin to the squad and the other to 2 way since Brown already has the other 2 way spot. Right now, that's looking like Martin as he keeps us out of the LT due to being a rookie minimum and Coop already has an offer for another two way deal like Mays had last year. 

No, when you include Griffin we're already $1.8 million into the LT.  Marks isn't including Griffin.  Add the rookie salary not on a 2 way and you're about $3 million above the LT with 1 roster spot open.

14 minutes ago, NekiEcko said:

@thecampster Can we added Harkless to any trade right now or we have to wait?

https://www.hoopsaddict.com/nba-trade-rules-explained/#Can_an_NBA_Team_Trade_a_Player_They_Just_Traded_For

"A team can trade a player they just traded for if the transaction was a straight-up deal. However, if they wish to include that player in a package with another player or draft picks, there is a 60 day waiting period before they may do so.

The only exception to this rule is that the team that traded the player away cannot re-acquire him. He can be traded by the acquiring team immediately provided it is a 1 for 1 deal, one that does not involve at least 3 players."

So for example, they could move him for a 2nd round pick. They could trade him for someone's draft rights. They could trade him for someone making 25% more than him + 1 of the trade exceptions (about $6.5 million in salary max). Or they wait 60 days to package him.

10 minutes ago, Spud2nique said:

well the humble part makes it sincere and polite.

Can you ever pinpoint me calling someone a bum?  I was nice to Bruno and I wanted him traded. 

Minny said, "Go big or go home!"

14 minutes ago, NBASupes said:

If this is the last move we make, we are officially under the LT.

Uh no!

2 minutes ago, macdaddy said:

is this better or worse than what Derrick White fetched?

 Josh Richardson and Romeo Langford and a top-four-protected 2022 first-round pick was the cost for White.  But to be fair, there was no chance of that pick being in the lottery.  Pretty much the same value.

Just now, JTB said:

Ah hell!

it’s either Ayton or Simmons I suppose.

im hoping it’s Ayton .

Why do I even bother posting Cap information.  The Ayton trade would increase our Cap by $11 million.  We are currently $6 million from the Apron and need 2 more players (min 2 mil each).  Basically we'd have to clear $10 million in salary now to get Ayton. Its not happening without dumping Bogi or JC as well.

2 minutes ago, Peoriabird said:

These guys are desperately trying to avoid the tax...forget about Simmons or Ayton!

This puts us at 13 players (assuming everyone stays) and right at $151 million in salary (a smidge over the tax line).

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/utah-cut-juan-hernangomez-194913160.html

2 hours ago, thecampster said:

Senior moment. Forgot to adjust Trae's salary with the new cap.

 

Player	2022-23
Trae Young	$37,096,500	$37,096,500
John Collins	$23,500,000	$60,596,500
Clint Capela	$19,706,897	$80,303,397
Bogdan Bogdanovic	$18,000,000	$98,303,397
DeJounte Murray	$16,571,120	$114,874,517
Kevin Huerter	$14,508,929	$129,383,446
De'Andre Hunter	$9,835,881	$139,219,327
Onyeka Okongwu	$6,395,160	$145,614,487
AJ Griffin	$2,907,300	$148,521,787
Jalen Johnson	$2,792,520	$151,314,307
Jock Landale	$1,563,518	$152,877,825		11 under contract
Total	$152,877,825
Cap	$123,655,000
LT Projected	$150,267,000
Add Ayton - Capela	$163.4 million	Over Apron		11 Under contract
Add Gobert - Capela and Bogi	$153.4 million			10 Under contract
Notes:	Cooper tendered 2 way

Assuming Aaron Holiday's deal is for the 4 year vet minimum of $1,968,175,  

Total - $154,846,000 for 12 players

LT Line - $150,267,000

LT room -  -$4,579,000

Apron room - $2,137,000

21 minutes ago, REHawksFan said:

So theoretically we could play over the LT line right up to the trade deadline and then dump enough salary to get under and not actually pay the tax?  

yes but just so you don't go getting all excited.  15 players we're going to be at About $158-160 million minimum. We'd have to drop 7.5-$10 million in salary at that time.

Just now, REHawksFan said:

What is the date that everything has to be under the LT line or pay the tax?  Is it the start of the season?  End of season?  Obviously today is the start of the new NBA Year, but I'm guessing they aren't paying the tax based on today's salaries since we don't know who will sign or be traded away.  

See...that's a great question.  Last day of the season for "paying the tax".  Current state for signings/trade rules.

9 minutes ago, Gray Mule said:

Two Hawk free agents gone to other teams.  Knox and Wright.

I mentioned that bit on Knox the other day. They would have been willing to keep him on a min, min+ deal for a year but knew he could get a better deal elsewhere with an opportunity for playing time. With them not offering him, I thought it was fairly certain his agent already had a suitor lined up.

3 minutes ago, kg01 said:

Oh did we not read the fine print which states the "hair" may or may not be from Simmons and may not even be human hair at all?

Then you better get with the people on the ordering desk. I was very clear with them that the voodoo ritual I was using the hair for required authentic hair and they assured me that rider was only in there to protect against any lawsuits from the fan club of Benjamin Simmons of Clarksdale, Florida. I have the chat transcript.