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They have salary to burn. More than likely they keep Gallo until the trade deadline then flip him as an expiring for a longer term asset / assets/ pick.

Now you're thinking. Keep the main thing the main thing. First domino first, then the rest.

Most likely, Bogi is then moved in another deal and Wright is brought back at the right price.

audible sigh. Okay so lets pretend we only use minimum level deals in your scenario to fill out the roster. Average 2 million per min deal. Clint, JC, Bogi out, Ayton in would mean we'd need to fill 7 slots with min deals. That's $14 million. Add Ayton's 30 million. Subtract JC, Clint, Bogi (61 mil). Assuming no salary came back dumping JC and Bogi...yes, technically yes you could fit in Ayton. Now lets get real. The money to fit in Ayton was the waiving of Gallo money so without a salary dump of at least $15 million, it isn't possible and you can only get bare basement signings. Translation....you're out on Ayton.

If this were to happen, the Cap impact would set us at about $154 million with 5 players to sign. One reminder, we own the rights to D.Wright, Knox, Cooper, Mays and would not have to follow cap rules to resign them. But because Gallo was not waived it would take us completely out of the Ayton conversation due to BYC.

I've been planning a secret pair up with Tommy Snikers out of Chicago. He's a 4 tool NBA fan who can eat hot wings with drooling, follows Woj and Stein, has solid Meme game and went 34th in Stephen A's fantasy league. Sometimes you have to let a player go to build a championship roster.

Steve Jobs: “It doesn't make sense to hire smart people and tell them what to do. We hire smart people so they can tell us what to do.”Aug 22, 2019

Whew, glad I had the right of refusal put into my Squawk contract for trades.

Its bigger than just Murray in, Collins out. It gives us 10 million more to spend this year and going forward. It give us the money to afford a deal like Gobert, to resign Wright, etc.

OO is not starting at the 4 this year if they trade Collins. You need to accept that. He'll be the rotational big and get 20-25 minutes a game (maybe) but he won't start at the 4. It will either be an experience 4 or JJ.

If you can't see the difference between 3 lottery 1sts (value) and 3 low 1st round 1sts...I don't know what to say. Those salaries at that level of the draft are equal to vet minimum salaries. If you're trying to contend, vet minimums are the better spend anyway.

Our firsts would not be very high...they would most likely be 21-30 which is what we'd be trading. The draft is a crap shoot at that range.

Cleveland was a few injuries away from being a serious contender. That team was no joke.

A few "ifs". If Atlanta gets Murray, the downgrade at PF won't be dramatic and the trade creates $10 million in cap space to improve other roster slots. But Murray gives them 2 primary ball handlers/insurance if Trae goes out for an extended period of time. If the Hawks continue to spend up to and around the LT, you can expect them to continue to be outside the lottery. The future picks the next 3 years + would be outside the top 20. 3 first round picks in the 5-15 range is very different than 3 picks 21-30. If SAS was asking for 3 lottery 1st rounders, I'd be balking too. But 3 21-30 picks, you're hoping 1 turns out to be a rotational player. In that case you're trading JC + 1 rotational player (3x21+ picks = 1 rotational player) for Murray. That's a very easy return, especially when that extra $10 million in salary can buy you a replacement rotation player...probably a better one. The Charlotte pick is already protected top 18 this year. I'd send 23, 25 and Charlotte's pick but only if I also have a plan at center and a plan to spend our other money. You don't trade for Murray in that situation in a vacuum. You have a plan going along with it.

I would caution you about speaking in absolutes like this. Saying things like "I'll never marry a redhead" is the one surefire way to ensure you end up marrying a redhead. The reality is Boston is already $8 million over the LT entering the 2022-23 season. Now Boston only has 1 empty roster slot and 2 non-guaranteed salaries (minus Horford's partial guarantee). Their only pathway to improve and get back to the Finals (they were very lucky getting there this year) is to make trades and to get the kind of improvement you need, you have to do something with their top salaries. That $19 million partial guarantee to Horford really hampers them. There is also the feeling that after his contract ends in 2 seasons, Brown will want to see if he can find a better situation. Boston knows this and Brown is not off-limits. There is no rush to trade him but they realize that Brown wants a perfect situation. Much like our situation with Collins. They value Brown and there is no bad blood. But their only path forward may be through using brown to upgrade their weaknesses.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/#:~:text=NBA Team Salary Cap Tracker&text=If a team uses their,Luxury Tax Apron (%24155%2C196%2C200). Teams that are under the cap will have their cap holds applied to their overall cap while teams that are over the cap will not have their cap holds applied but must use any exceptions they possess. If a team uses their Bi-Annual, Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level, or Sign-and-Trade they will be considered to be hard-capped and must keept below the Luxury Tax Apron ($155,196,200).

Player 2022-23 With Waived Trae Young $36,600,000 John Collins $23,500,000 Danilo Gallinari $21,450,000 $5,000,000 Clint Capela $19,706,897 Bogdanovic $18,000,000 Kevin Huerter $14,508,929 De'Andre Hunter $9,835,881 Onyeka Okongwu $6,395,160 AJ Griffin $2,907,300 Jalen Johnson $2,792,520 Total $155,696,687 Cap Projected $122,000,000 LT Projected $149,000,000 Without Danilo - $139,246,687

You can't trade after the trade deadline, until the season ends because only those on your roster can qualify for post season. Once eliminated you can trade again and those trades are processed during the calendar year they are "processed" by the league.

Teams do that to meet the 90% threshold in the current calendar year.

He isn't super athletic, not super quick, didn't go to a top program, he just plays good basketball. I'm wondering if in 3 years people will look back and say, "How did he not get drafted". He's a mid tier bench guy IMHO but he's a player and the "potential" guys that went instead of him based on measurables bothers me. The kid can play.

Technically current year. Same question. If we traded Huerter today he'd be on the restriction that averages his salary between last years and next years. Traded after July 8th. Next years. Edit: That's why on Draft night they say, "Detroit is picking for Denver" because part of the trade they want on next year's salary so it won't be finalized till after the new season begins.

See last year. OFF-SEASON August 2, 2021 (6pm eastern) — Beginning of upcoming salary cap year’s moratorium period August 3 — Start of salary cap year This year's moratorium period begins July 1. Start of Salary cap year should be July 2.

because there is no chance of those 3 being on the market this offseason. Though I'll take a step back, "outside chance" may have been too hopeful for those on the squawk looking for every possibility and making it a definite. Rumor out of Boston is they would break up Brown and Tatum if the right deal materialized. Brown is a player we've coveted for a long time who has local ties. I'm not saying this is being discussed actively, but there is a chance Brown is shopped this offseason and if so, we'd be one of his preferred destinations. Do I think its happening, no. Do I think its possible?...small chance.

New salary cap is instituted the day after day 1 of the new season during the moratorium.

Okay so the draft is over, June 29th is fast approaching. Why haven't we done anything? The Hawks' offseason is all tied up in Gallo. If we keep Gallo on the roster, we're in the LT with 6 players to sign. If we waive Gallo we're 13 million from the LT with 7 players to sign. The offseason begins (always has) with Gallo. That decision happens within 4 days one way or another. This isn't to say Gallo won't be traded after the moratorium. He could be and that's part of the oddness that is this offseason. What happens with Collins? July 8th opens up a world of opportunities as it pertains to Collins. This is the end of the moratorium and for other teams whose extensions are kicking in, their new salaries are kicked in July 8th. This opens up the trade partners for Collins. That said, I'd give us a 50/50 chance to get a deal done for Murray and if so, this should create a trade exception for us as well to use later (see Gobert). There's some moving parts here. What about Huerter? July 8th his full salary kicks in, making trading him, packaging him with CC easier to do. What about BB? His salary stays the same as last year. This helps his trade value as he's a better bargain this year than last (lower percentage of the cap with less years of salary left). I never expected BB gone before the moratorium ended and I expect both Utah and Boston to come sniffing as well as Brooklyn. There's an outside chance he lands in LA. What about Capela? Similar to BB. Big jump in the cap compared to the jump in his salary with 1 less year remaining. He's a better trade target this year, than last. I didn't expect Capela moved before July 8th. What about Ayton? IMHO we're 3rd on that list right now. Mostly likely landing spot, Detroit. 2nd most, resign with Phoenix. What about Gobert? IMHO we are 2nd on the list behind Utah right now. Best guess is he stays there but I'd say we've got about a 40% chance of landing him. Any deal for Gobert (from our end) is going to be Capela, Bogi (or Huerter), + picks (current or future). What about other? There is an outside chance we could end up in a Jaylen Brown sweepstakes. This is one of the few deals we'd consider JJ or OO in. There are other minor players we could be in the hunt for. We can't make any decisions on Wright, Knox, others until we settle Gallo and any potential upgrade trades. Most of our opportunities don't materialize until July 8. This is why the ball is now in SAS' court. If they want to get Collins before other suitors arrive, they have 4 days to do it....before we waive Gallo.