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So to be clear, there are a few angles to this trade you all may not be considering. Point guard play in New York really didn't help Knox out. Tom T becoming their coach sank him. He's not "great" but he isn't a bum. He'll probably get some burn here to up his trade value. He does shoot about 36% from 3. If I told you all you could trade Solomon Hill for Knox straight up you'd do it all day long. The problem is Cam's name is attached and on Knox you're buying low. In the battle between Cam, Hunter, Huerter, BB, there was too much money and not enough effort from 2 of the 4. When the Hawks gave that big money to Collins, Capela and Trae, this move was inevitable. Huerter played himself into his contract, the question is who of BB/Hunter remains after the deadline. Keep Hunter you got to pay him. Its a tough call. Back to Knox. He was behind Randle, Toppin and other situational bigs. He was young and not the type of player Tibbs likes. See below taken from: https://heavy.com/sports/new-york-knicks/knicks-kevin-knox-reveals-new-video-ahead-of-contract-year-watch/ Kevin Knox was a contributor to the New York Knicks’ exciting 5-7 start through the season’s first 12 games. Play Kevin Knox 19 pts 5 threes 5 rebs vs Hornets 20/21 seasonGo To ballhoggloves.com for basketball training equipment. He averaged 8.3 points on 41% shooting from the three-point line in that span. But then, slowly yet surely, he fell out of head coach Tom Thibodeau’s rotation. The longtime head coach called Knox, as well as Ntilikina, “situational” ahead of the Knicks’ 23rd game of the season, and neither went on to play significant roles. Knox made one appearance in New York’s first-round series against the Atlanta Hawks, connecting on a garbage-time bucket in their Game Four loss. It may prove his last game in a New York Knicks uniform. Multiple Outlets Are Suggesting a Knox Trade The New York Knicks might be more likely to retain Kevin Knox if not for his $5.8-million salary. That’s good for the third-highest on the team, behind Julius Randle and RJ Barrett. Ahead of an offseason where they’re hoping to land a top talent like Chris Paul or Kyle Lowry, expect Leon Rose and the front office to explore all potential avenues to opening up even more cap space. Salary dumping an expiring contract like Knox’s shouldn’t be too tall a task for the Knicks who have multiple second-round picks for teams to choose from in exchange for taking on the third-year forward. A number of outlets have already proposed such deals in recent weeks. Brian Robb of Mass Live suggested New York send him to the Boston Celtics, who have yet to completely fill the trade exception from the Gordon Hayward trade: And Bleacher Report’s Dan Favale wrote up a trade proposal just last week, where the Knicks would send Knox and the 32nd overall pick to the Houston Rockets for Avery Bradley and Danuel House: It seems unlikely that Kevin Knox’s latest workout tape will do much (if anything) to alter his uncertain future with the New York Knicks. But above all else, once he’s gone, no one will ever be able to bash his work ethic.

If the season ended today, the pick would be #20.

So a bit of commentary on this trade (not commenting on future trades incoming). Knox's rookie year he was 12/4.5 on terrible efficiency but okay 3 point numbers. Knox can already shoot the 3 and lacked the point guard play in New York to take advantage of his athletic abilities. Knox wasn't TT's type of player. He is not skillless. Reddish is a good player but was a constant push for coaches having to challenge him, motivate him. His work he did at the end of last year trailed off once the season started this year. Specifically, the Hawks wanted to keep him and help him mature but not at the cost of paying him what he'd command. The Reddish camp was adamant at exploring his trade value and Reddish was calling for opportunities to showcase his abilities (to perhaps increase his value). This led to some sloppy inefficient play and rubbed some teammates the wrong way (behind closed doors talk). There are going to be more moves to follow. They're not blowing this thing up but they aren't standing pat either.

Frees up about $500,000 in room under the LT as well. Knox makes more than Reddish but less than Reddish+Hill.

Knox may pass through Atlanta in another deal. Edited, top 18 protected.

So the deal is Knicks get: Reddish, Hill, 2nd round pick in 2025. Hawks get: Knox, 1st round pick in 2022 (protected from Charlotte if not in top 18).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33057458/atlanta-hawks-trade-cam-reddish-new-york-knicks-kevin-knox-1st-round-pick-sources-say

Cam Reddish to New York Adrian Wojnarowski: ESPN Sources: The Atlanta Hawks are trading forward Cam Reddish to the New York Knicks for a deal that includes a protected 2022 first-round pick via Charlotte. Knicks also acquire Solomon Hill and a 2025 second-round pick via Brooklyn in trade. 40 mins ago – via Twitter wojespn Top Rumors, Trade, Cam Reddish, Solomon Hill, Atlanta Hawks, New York Knicks

See highlights for my thoughts.

If and when things go down, remember you heard it here first.

Biggest issue with rumors is the old smokescreen. Throw something out in the media to try to get other teams not in the rumor to up an offer.

Actually that's news to me. Have to ask them.

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2022/01/10/report-76ers-have-stopped-fining-ben-simmons/amp/ Philly now engaged in reputation repair with Simmons (see story). Important for the incoming team selling it to the fanbase.

Actually I floated a smidgen 3 weeks.ago without drawing attention.

Okay, theoretically OKC can absorb his salary....but that's it.

Non-Taxpaying Scenario — Rule — If a team’s post-trade team salary is above the salary cap but below the tax level, then a traded player may be replaced in the same transaction by one or more players whose salaries together do not exceed the greater of (i) the lesser of (A) 175% of the pre-trade salary of the traded player plus $100,000, or (B) the pre-trade salary of the traded player plus $5 million, or (ii) 125% of the pre-trade salary of the traded player plus $100,000. Given Ben's salary option B is the least. Simmon's salary this year is $33 million. So in effect, the least salary team B can send out in this trade is $27,900,000. As soon as @bleachkit has a collection of youngins that don't make Philly gut their roster and add up to $27.9 million, let me know.

Youngins don't add up to enough salary. He's missing that valuable piece from his equation.

Per the hoopshype rumor, there is no all star...IE, the value you are describing isn't there.

You aren't arguing with me now, you're arguing with Brian Windhorst and Marc Spears. Please read again. We didn't engage them, they engaged us! Quote, " . “I’m hearing they want to include Tobias Harris,” said Spears of Philadelphia’s trade talks with the Atlanta Hawks. “Me too,” replied Windhorst. “That is the word out there because they can’t necessarily get an All-Star they want in return right now, as the Sixers have continued their talks, they’ve talked to teams about trading Tobias and Ben.” 6 hours ago – via RealGM

This reminds of the time I tried to teach granular physics to Pandas.

I'm going to try this one more time. You get Simmons to pair him with your good talent. Good talent usually gets paid good salary. Simmons = Really good salary. To trade for Simmons, you have to send "Really Good Salary" back to meet trade rules. Any team trading for Simmons this year is trying to keep their really good players to make a playoff push. Visa vi....there aren't better offers on the table or they would have taken it already.

As with everything, the problem is the money. Both Huerter and Cam's names thrown in there but the salaries aren't a match with either of them for what Atlanta wants to do. Houston is effectively paying to get rid of Wall in this scenario and taking on Cooper. Some of the pick compensation comes from Houston, some from Atlanta.

Notice I haven't even engaged on that one.

Gah!!!! now you guys have done riled up my old man genes. Look, I only put about 10% of what I hear on here and only after doing some due diligence. I don't "know"! Anyone who claims otherwise is a liar and the truth is not in him. But I've already filtered out the majority of foolishness and mostly just fill in the dots after that. Yes there are picks involved, no I don't have the exact details. I've heard names and frameworks but I'm not flipping Woj being spoonfed all the details 10 minutes before it goes down. I don't think any of us all. We pretty much deal in frameworks because if anyone claims they know more than that, they're padding the resume.