Nicholasp27 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 assume we could have gotten daly or chandler (your choice!) instead of jj for the same price (diaw/picks/70mil) if we had drafted paul/deron(your choice!) instead of marvin...pick your favorite lineup choice 1: JJ/Chill/Smoove/Al/Zaza with Marvin off bench choice 2: Deron(Paul)/Chill/Smoove/Al/Daly(Chandler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 to me, choice one has more depth and potential assume that EVERYBODY pans out we now can trade al for another piece and have JJ/Chill/Marvin/Smoove/Zaza or we have deron/chill/smoove/al/daly and no trading pieces IF everyone pans out, bk's choice of jj/marvin/zaza will be a better, deeper team than the deron/daly choice (and that's only IF we coulda gotten daly/chandler...we prolly couldn't have) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I voted 1 just for the hell of it, but the fact is that we never had any chance at Dalembert or Chandler. Neither team was letting them go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 exactly, which makes what bk has done even better... even if we coulda gotten daly/chandler, what we have is STILL better i know we didn't know we could get jj, but now that we have that hindsight, i don't see why we are hearing all the complaining about our current lineup i guess some people just have no faith in jj or marvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I voted for option 2. Interior defense wins championships (unless you have the greatest player of all time). Dalembert or Chandler represent the potential for interior defense - I acknowledge that neither is a finished product at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 1) One doesn't know who would or wouldn't have signed if Paul or Deron were selected. 2) That includes BK, who wouldn't have known that JJ would have signed period. Still, I would assume compare... JJ, Chill, Smoove, Al, Za Za with Marvin coming off the bench to - Paul or Deron, JJ, Chill, Al, Za Za with Smoove coming off the bench I like the 2nd better given we would have a true Pg and JJ's best attribute (shooting) wouldn't be bottled up trying to play the point role. I would worry with Paul as I think large guards will expose him over time. W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 I don't really understand the premise... are you saying that we keep the 70 million, Diaw, and 2 picks?? Why add another variable... Moreover, why introduce Dally? Are you saying we spend on him... That might have worked, but the sensibility is that he's not worth the money... So you're saying: Deron, Chill, Smoove, Al, Dally vs. JJ, Chill, Smoove, Al, Zaza? What squad would be better? Question: Couldn't we still get Zaza and Dally? I mean, I don't see how us getting one would forbid us getting the other? We had that much money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted September 23, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Deron/JJ/zaza personally. There's no reason that we couldn't have had that lineup either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted September 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 This is kinda might thought too.. JJ expressly said he wanted to play for US... It may have been the thought of Money or he may just wanted to be a Hawk.. So why does us getting Deron stop us from getting JJ... Moreover, I am of the minority that believes that JChill is better suited at Sf than SG and that JJ is better suited at SG than PG.. I just believe that SGs should be able to shoot and that PGs should be able to run an offense. That said, I think the best lineup would have been: Deron, JJ, JC, Al, Zaza... With Smoove off the bench at the 3 and 4. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 i don't think jj comes here if deron is our pick bk brought him here to be pg...he doesn't spend 70mil+2 firsts+diaw on jj for sg when chill is bk's future sg jj wanted to come here to be pg...he thinks he's more effective when he controls the ball and the team...if we had deron, jj may never have told phoenix he wanted them to let him go to atl i think the odds of jj/deron offseason are very very very slim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 JJ wanted to come here in large part because he wanted the ball in his hands. I don't think he comes if we get Deron. Also, Zaza chose us because he wanted PT. We don't get him if we get a center like Chandler/Dalembert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 exactly! jj doesn't come if deron/paul zaza doesn't come if daly/chandler those were my assumptions with the poll...what bk and the players have said all back me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted September 23, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 JJ wanted out of phoenix first and foremost. the situation was NOT we wanted JJ and phoenix didn't offer him enough. It was that phoenix didn't offer him enough, so he wanted to leave. We just happened to be the people with the most money and the best sales pitch. I'm not dissing JJ. I'm just being realistic. His top priority was to get out of phoenix. If we had drafted a PG, it would not change the fact taht he would still fill a huge hole for us and it wouldn't change the fact taht we could offer him more money than anyone else, as well as a much larger role on the team. Either situation would have gotten him what he wanted 1. Out of phoenix 2. MO MONEY. 3. Bigger role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 that's true to some extent. I do think he wanted out of Phoenix regardless, and I do think alot of teams were after him. I'm not so sure that we'd go after him as hard, purely as a SG, but who knows. I also think JJ might pick a different team to play for if we have a point+JC. To tell you the truth, I really don't care at this point. I am glad JJ is here, I am glad Marvin is here. I would have been ok with Deron, who would have made us better in the short term. We can only hope that Marvin will be the right choice in the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorystar Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Option 1. Just the thought of having Marvin Williams and Josh Smith on the same team makes me a very excited fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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