Plainview1981 Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 14 points 6 assists 4 rebounds 6-10 shooting. It appears that he's played well in two of the three games. Is it case of him just needing to get out of Atlanta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpierrek Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 i am glad he has finally found a home. It's too bad, his other nba experience was with us......and it was a horrible one for him and the franchise. In conclusion, like j.j. and diaw they are complimentary players. if we had a steve nash to run the show it would make everyone better. we asked too much from diaw and he did produce; now we are doing the same thing with j.j. complimentary players need leaders. that's all................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 When we get a coach in here that maximizes and puts our talent in the best position for each to succeed is when you can tell who can play and who can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithSentinel Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 He has the talent. It will be interesting to see if he can maximize it now with the Suns. Chances are he will do well this season. I'd still do the JJ trade though all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 I'd still do the JJ trade though all over again. " That's foolish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Quote: I'd still do the JJ trade though all over again. " That's foolish Really? Diaw for JJ? We stole on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 2 1st round picks, 70 million, Diaw for a 2nd or 3rd option scorer. Not such a great deal. I understand they had to go through with it once it got in deep talks. However, it doesn't appear as if talks should have got very far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 6, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 You can't keep crying over spilled milk. You complained all while Boris was here now you want to be on his bandwagon??? When Boris was here, he was given every opportunity to step up. Woody begged him to be more selfish and to be a scorer. I don't care if Boris goes on to lead the league and Points and Assists... That's good for Phoenix. I just know that when he was a Hawk, he couldn't get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 When Boris was here, he was given every opportunity to step up. Woody begged him to be more selfish and to be a scorer. I don't care if Boris goes on to lead the league and Points and Assists... That's good for Phoenix. I just know that when he was a Hawk, he couldn't get it done." It's Billy's job. He runs the team and it's his job to do the right thing regardless of what anybody says. When he's wrong I'm going to complain regardless of how view it. So even though I wasn't very fond of Boris, and I didnt think he would be able to do much, it's Billy's job to make the correct choice. When he doesn't do his job correctly he should be called for it. Maybe he couldn't get the job done is because Mike Woodson is a sorry coach and that's what I should have figured from the start. Next coach needs to be somebody that is actually proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff_Man Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 The deal will come out in our favor. It is a tad early to be assessing the outcome 3 games into the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominiqueWilkins Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 I think he really needed a change and he made it clear he wanted one also. I support Boris Diaw, because I’ve always been a fan, so I hope the best for him, and I’m happy to see him doing well. The Suns are really bringing out the best part of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 yeah anyone paying attention knows that Diaw never would have done anything HERE. Even if he becomes a stud over there, it doesn't matter, it wouldn't have worked here. It's a win-win. Diaw was not going to succeed here in an environment without a ton of talent around him with a personal problem with the coach. So losing him is irrelevant. JJ for 2 first rounders I think will turn out great. JJ has hamperred by his foot, you have yet to get a real idea of the kind of talent he's really bringing to the squad. Besides, you can't put a price on how beneficial it will be that a top free agent wanted to come here over anywhere else and did. Do you guys not remember how frustrating it was to always hear "your capspace is useless, no good player will ever want to sign there, you're screwed. " That was a huge bump to get over and we did. And got one fine @ss player in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 My belief was that for JJ to live up to what was given up for him he had to be a star PG (A real need) or Tmac level type of SG. I don't believe JJ can do either one, so in my mind he isn't worth the money. I might be alittle hard on the Hawks young players right now. But that's mainly due to the way they've played so far in the early going. I think the truth is that neither Smoove or Childress are true stars, so the Hawks still have to work on getting those players. It doesn't look like JJ is that guy to me. I suspect that abit of Diaw's failure here is because he and Woodson didn't get along and Woody just isn't that good of a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunt91 Posted November 6, 2005 Report Share Posted November 6, 2005 Diaw didn't do much when Terry Stotts was the coach here as well. Diaw is doing well because he doesn't have to worry about scoring. He can take his time and let his game come to him. On the Hawks he was constantly being pushed to step up his Offensive game due to the lack of scorers on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Terry wasn't a very experienced coach either. That's the problem, the Hawks aren't hiring coaches that have experience and therefore the trend that has went on will likely continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzachary Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Why are there so many [censored] Boris Diaw threads? UGH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 7, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 True.. But..... How is an inexperienced coach supposed to get experience? Look at Rick Carlisle. Look at Nate McMillan. Look at Phoenix' coach. Look at Poppivich. All these guys had to start somewhere to become successful. That somewhere will not always be with a winning team. If Woody starts doing his Bob Weiss imitation, then we have to let him go and get Silas, but until then, we have to give him a chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Diesel: Quote: You can't keep crying over spilled milk. But you CAN keep crying over the decision made during the draft? Just playin Diesel, I agreew with you on Boris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathway23 Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 I agree with you Diesel. We can't have a revolving carousel of coaches. Woody does a good job motivating the kids, and I think he deserves a chance to coach them when they are expected to win (after they have a couple years of experience) and only then if he blows it do we need that veteran proven coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted November 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Quote: True.. But..... How is an inexperienced coach supposed to get experience? Look at Rick Carlisle. Look at Nate McMillan. Look at Phoenix' coach. Look at Poppivich. All these guys had to start somewhere to become successful. That somewhere will not always be with a winning team. If Woody starts doing his Bob Weiss imitation, then we have to let him go and get Silas, but until then, we have to give him a chance! Leave that up two the other teams. Already went with two inexperineced head coachs and it fails. This is a franchise that needs big names and somebody that can actually help turn things around. The Hawks have a bad smell like no other franchise right now. I know that sounds negitive. But c'mon, I think there are WNBA eams that draw better than the Hawks. How is Mike Woodson or Terry Stotts going to help turn this around? You think anybody takes these guys seriousally as head coaches? The Players? The NBA fanbase? Who? Just tired of seeing coaches with no credibility and unable to do anything with players getting hired. The Hawks need a new direction and start it by going with a coach that actually has some accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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