NYHawk Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 This would be a nice fit here. We desperately need a point guard and veteran leadership to bring out the best in our young guys. JJ can go back to playing his natural position. I think with a record of 0 and 4 we can end the experiment of playing best five, regardless fo their best position. If Hawk management is listening, please at least explore getting Steph. He's an all star caliber point. The draft doesn't look good next year. Our options to improve are to trade or sign free agents. I hope the Hawks seriosuly explore this opportunity. Boy it be nice to dream playoffs one day. It was pitiful to see so many empty seats last night. This has to send a message to Hawk ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Quote: I think with a record of 0 and 4 we can end the experiment of playing best five, regardless fo their best position. um, lue is NOT one of our best 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er9dverk Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 i would rather try a shot at steve francis, also rumored to be available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 11, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 The problem is that the only way we could get Marbury would be to give up Al... Also, I don't know what kind of relationship JJ and SM had in Phoenix? I think for the future, it's important to keep Al around. He's our most consistent player and his offense is helpful to JJ. I think we can hold out... Even if this year is chalked up to a learning year... Keep the depth.. Next year... Without the draft: Cenk/Lue JJ/Chillz Al/ Marvin/Smoove/Batista Zaza/ If we can get David Andersen (finally)... Then we go into the draft with a high pick. I would take either Gay, Rondo or Ronnie Brewer... I think our hopes lie with the development of Cenk in Europe and his willingness to come to US... Also if we can get one bruiser.. The Long awaited David Andersen or Randolph Morris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 andersen is supposed to join the team next year cenk will prolly wait another year or two, but he may not if he continues to have a great year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted November 11, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I really don't trust Europlayers (goes back to Sabonis)... But I would love to have both next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted November 11, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 They are overpaid and don't help their team win. Both are shoot first point guards and if u follow their careers they don't seem to make their team better when they arrive there. Marbury has been all over the place and his salary is outlandish. I don't want Francis or Marbury personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhawk Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 JJ and Marbury relationship was okay, but everybody knows Marbury is a shoot first point guard that is talented enough to still get decent assist numbers. His problem is he wants the ball in his hands all the time and he doesn't make the players around him better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Pass on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHawk Posted November 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 If we just sit pat, we will have close to the worst record in the league AGAIN. A GM has a duty to try and shape his team into a contender. I think we have a better shot to improve if we trade for Marbury or Francis, rather than do nothing. At 0 and 4, we have nothing to lose!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Folks who want to stand pat obviously aren't season ticket holders because no one wants to continue to pay big money for that crap we saw last night. My plan would be to trade Harrington and Delk for Marbury....trade childress to Mil for Gaduric and run a lineup of Marbury JJ Marvin Zaza Gazuric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Somebody who knows what a blocked shot and sound defense looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeans Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 We need to keep Harrington and sign him to an extension. Things are starting to clear up a little in terms of keepers and losers. Keepers (We have to hold on to these guys): Salim JJ Marvin Williams Al Harrington Zsa Zsa Tradeable pieces with value: Chillz Smoove Donte Delk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Quote: We need to keep Harrington and sign him to an extension. Harrington really isn't that good. Last year he averaged 17.5/7 in big minutes, which is nothing special. He is too small, lazy and lacks the hops to defend the paint. He doesn't have the perimeter game to play the 3. Basically he is good for a 6th man role on a good team but I don't see him as a long term starter here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Quote: They are overpaid and don't help their team win. Both are shoot first point guards and if u follow their careers they don't seem to make their team better when they arrive there. Marbury has been all over the place and his salary is outlandish. I don't want Francis or Marbury personally. Absolutely agree. The Hawks are just going to have to bit the bullet this year and get a point guard in the draft next year - Rando, Gibson, whomever. I will say, Hawks would be looking a lot better with Chris Paul at point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Quote: Somebody who knows what a blocked shot and sound defense looks like. Agreed, but I don't think there is anyone available that fits that description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 If we are going to make a trade we need to trade for a big...Marbury would not help this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted November 11, 2005 Admin Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 We have everything to lose. We lock ourselves into a terrible contract and lose cap space to sign a guy who doesn't really help his team. These guys are more out for their own stats then the success of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Quote: If we are going to make a trade we need to trade for a big...Marbury would not help this team. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emeans Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Harrington is a solid player whether he is a 6th man in the future or not. He is a talent we don't need to lose in this rebuilding stage. There is no drop off whether he is coming off the bench or not in the future. Right now he and JJ are the only two reliable scorers on this squad. We probably wouldn't win a game without Al. We can't keep giving our best players away only getting potential!! We have a solid nucleus, lets not break this nucleus, lets build around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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