Pryz not wanted in Atlanta?

[Diesel]

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Przybilla spent his first 3½ seasons in Milwaukee, and she grew up in nearby Big Bend. They are expecting their first child, a son, in February and would love to be closer to family.

But his time with the Bucks wasn't fun (he often was hurt), and he rode out the final 12 games in 2003-04 in Atlanta. Portland wanted him when no one else did.

Now it has paid off for both.

"It takes everybody his own time, but he's pretty solid now," said Wolves assistant coach Bob Thornton, who works with big men. "Most of the time, you've got to find yourself. 'How am I going to make myself effective? Am I going to defend more, am I going to score?' He's more aggressive than I've ever seen."

Przybilla has four double-doubles this season, including 10 points and 12 rebounds against the Wolves two weeks ago. This is his second visit to Minnesota -- the teams met in the season opener -- but at this point, the Pacific Northwest feels more like home than home. Noelle, visiting today, will spend Christmas in Wisconsin while Przybilla practices and kills time in Portland.

"I owe a lot to this organization," he said.

"When I was down, coming off that season in Atlanta, there weren't too many offers out there. [blazers GM] John Nash gave me a shot when a lot of people didn't."

That doesn't sound like any sort of thug at all.

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Either we didn't want Pryz or Pryz was disgusted with the little offer we gave?

[Lascar78]

or he wanted to leave this losing situation

[Packfill]

For another losing situation?

[Lascar78]

Portland was a .500 ball club before Pryz went there, much much better than a recently destroyed Atlanta roster. He didn't know he was going to lose in Portland, and that's why he'll probably bolt again for what he thinks is a winning situation

[exodus]

I think Pryz would be my first choice for center for the Hawks. Not only is he a good rebounder and shotblocker, he is also the best man defender on the Blazers' team. That is if the comparative per stats at 82games.com are legit.

The problem is that there is no way to be sure he will come here. They might have to overpay again but the certainly need some defense in the middle.

[Packfill]

Well, he seems to feel he owes the blazers and has family nearby. You could argue that by looking at their roster it was likely they would not be a .500 team the following season given the loss of Rasheed and the turmoil.

I am surprised Atlanta didn't give him an offer.

[delanceyj]

Who cares.. We have ZaZa now, he has proven to be much better anyway..

[Lascar78]

it didn't say Atlanta didn't give him an offer. It says he got few offers. I get the feeling that he wanted out of here at all costs, and Portland was one of the few teams other than us who showed interest.

It makes sense with what we hear from Pryz and what we hear from BK. I see no reason to believe otherwise. I can't blame him for bailing on a team who shipped away all their talent.

Pryz won't be coming back. He'd stay in Portland before he came here

[Packfill]

I would trade Zaza for Pryz in a heartbeat.

[Diesel]

Actually, I think he's going to Minnesota.

I think it's interested that he didn't want to resign here. I wonder what role Bill Duffy played in it all. If Duffy had a problem with the Hawks, it could be a problem...

[exodus]

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Pryz won't be coming back. He'd stay in Portland before he came here

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Portland can't offer more than the MLE. Hawks can beat that easily. And this time last year nobody though Hughes or JJ would walk.

I have a question about the sign and trade rules for anyone who would know.

As I understand it a team signs a player as if they were keeping him, then trades him. However Portland can only sign Przy to a 5 year, $29 million contract max. Would they be able to exceed that to do a sign and trade? in other words sign him to a bigger contract than they can actually offer, then trade him?

[Diesel]

There's no "Hard Cap" in the NBA.

A team can still sign it's own FAs for whatever they want to sign them for (allowable by the cap rules)...

For instance, Phoenix could have signed JJ for the Max. They just didn't want to risk paying the luxury tax. Especially knowing they would have to max out Amare.

So basically how much a team spends basically comes down to what a team is willing to spend on it's players.

Now. If Portland were willing to do a SNT they would probably want some of our Salary cap (as it is called).. Similar to what we did with Phoenix, send PTL a player or pick and they end up signing for what would be over the cap but not really spending that much.

Somedays, I think it would be more interesting just to set a hard cap.

Say 55 million HARD CAP.. and let GMs do their work... That would make the process more fun. I know Owners would love that too. But I think too many teams would end up losing their own FAs and those FAs would lose out.

[TheDude]

i think having ZaZa and Pryz in our lineup as a 2headed monster as our centers would be a very solid core...I think we could win with those guys as our centers..

[Nicholasp27]

a 55mil hard cap would never fly with the players

their salaries would have to come way down

[exodus]

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A team can still sign it's own FAs for whatever they want to sign them for (allowable by the cap rules)...

For instance, Phoenix could have signed JJ for the Max.

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No they can't. They can only do that if they have his Bird rights. Since Joel played their only two years and they are over the cap they can't exceed the MLE.

Forgetting your homework?

[Lascar78]

I know, 20 teams are over that cap right now. NY is at 124 mil

Personally I think the NBA has a great system, but I think the Allan Houston rule was complete BS. It was a gift from the NBA to NY basically, complete crap

[Packfill]

Interestingly though the Knicks did not get rid of Allen Houston under the "Allen Houston Rule."

[Diesel]

Actually, I was referring to JJ and Phoenix, If you had noticed.

[Lascar78]

only because he was willing to retire, allowing them to use it on JYD. Otherwise they would have.

But yeah that is funny

That fake article claiming that Houston was suing the NBA for using his name was funny too

[exodus]

My question was about Pryz and since you responded I assumed you were talking about him and used JJ as an example.

Probably it would be tough to find out the answer to that sign and trade scenario.