parvezf Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 This is the latest from today's chat on ESPN.com with Chris Sheridan, the new Chad Ford: Chris Sheridan: The latest and greatest is this: Donnie Walsh is being extra meticulous on this one, and he continues to believe a better deal is available than anything that's been put on the table. The Al Harrington three-way trade nearly got done, but I'm told the Hawks did not want to take Earl Watson from the Nuggets. Indiana can get a couple of deals done immediately if ownership agrees to take on additional payroll, but so far they've shown no signs of taking on an additional financial burden. So the waiting game continues. I guess this further underscores the fact that BK did not want Earl Watson this past summer, and he doesn't want him now. Is there anyone else on the Nuggets roster that would fit salary-wise that is perhaps an expiring contract? By the way, what is Nene's contract anyway? Do we even need anyone added to his contract to make the salaries line up with Artest and Harrington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakin Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I really don't think Harrington's going anywhere this season. I hope I'm wrong though, I'd really like to see Marvin get more chances to show what he did against Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Quote: I guess this further underscores the fact that BK did not want Earl Watson this past summer, and he doesn't want him now. I find this absolutely stunning. I can't wait to see what BK does over the next 9 months. He has until next September to show me that he can put a cohesive team together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Quote: I'm told the Hawks did not want to take Earl Watson from the Nuggets. That sounds vaguely familiar. Quote: I guess this further underscores the fact that BK did not want Earl Watson this past summer, and he doesn't want him now. Or, he doesn't want him for that many years. Or, he wants to use that cap space elsewhere. Or, he plans on drafting a PG. Quote: Is there anyone else on the Nuggets roster that would fit salary-wise that is perhaps an expiring contract? Voshon Lenard. Quote: By the way, what is Nene's contract anyway? $3M Quote: Do we even need anyone added to his contract to make the salaries line up with Artest and Harrington? Yes. How about: Nene, Lenard to Atlanta Harrington to Indiana Artest to Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I think it would have to come down to a four team deal. We're not wanting Watson, well, somebody has to find something either Lenard or Watson for somebody we do want. Maybe Lenard to Detroit, Darko to Atlanta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I don't see why Watson HAS to be traded in this deal. He could always be traded to the Knicks for a big man like Taylor. If Harrington is what Indy wants, Artest is what Denver wants, and Nene is what Atlanta wants, a deal could be worked out with other spare parts. I still feel that Denver should have to send a future 1st out, b/c they're getting Artest pretty cheaply in all of these deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 bk should hold out for dre/nene or, watson to indy and tinsley here we should get a good pg to go with the injured nene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 is Nene not a FA after this season? why the hell would we lose our best player (arguably) because we don't want to lose him in free agency in a trade for another free agent. it makes no sense. hold out and see if Marvin resigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Al is unrestricted, Nene is restricted. Quote: hold out and see if Marvin resigns. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakin Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 think he meant Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 hard to argue that al is our best player he doesn't put up better stats than jj his defense is much worse than jj the only thing he does better is rebound, and that's because he's much closer to the basket jj can slow down kobe al can't slow down bench pfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 it's not like we have talent stockpiled here. why is everyone so hell beant on trading Al? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 it's the fear of losing him for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 a) he will want more than 6-7mil/year to resign here b) he is an UFA this summer c) as good as he is on offense, his defense is bad and he's not the best rebounder for his position if he wasn't gonna be an UFA this summer, or we knew we could resign him for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 It's the erroneous belief that somehow Al is holding back Marvin. People beleive if Al is traded, Marvin would prove to be worthy of his #2 pick. Same people would be looking to trade Chills for a second rounder when Woody plays Chillz more than Marvin.. It's stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Quote: it's the fear of losing him for nothing. As long as Money is Al's #1 priority... *As he has stated time and time again.. There's not really a way that we can lose him for nothing; unless we deal stupidly with him. We can always work a SNT in the offseason. However, if Al walks, it's not guaranteed that he can get more than he's making now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Quote: why is everyone so hell beant on trading Al? How many times is this question going to be asked? It's clear there are two camps on this issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted December 23, 2005 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 I think he recognizes the 2 camps. He's asking about the purpose of the one. I mean, for the most part, the guys in the trade Al camp wants to trade Al for a Player who won't play this year (definitely) and is not promised to play next year. Rather than keep Al (if nothing else) for depth and usable talent and leadership. It really doesn't make sense until you consider the underlying motives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Quote: It's the erroneous belief that somehow Al is holding back Marvin. wrong stop putting words in other people's mouths many of us have said we should trade al last season and this summer...before we ever got marvin or knew our draft position the reason is what i said above; notice i didn't mention marvin/smoove/chill u yourself wanted to trade al until we got marvin; since then u've been on a campaign to keep al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Quote: There's not really a way that we can lose him for nothing Ummmm ... how about this. We offer 9 mil a year, someone else offers 12 mil a year, he accepts and signs. He's gone. Nothing we can do to prevent that. We can hope for a SNT if it's convenient for his new team, but no guarantees. There is a very real threat of losing Al for nothing At this point I think we should just keep him though because I think that the youngsters learning how to win is as important as getting a player in return for Al. Plus he might stay or get SNT. I would be for trading Al if we could find a good PG or C that would be under contract for us, but I haven't seen such a deal yet. I would trade him for Livingston in a heartbeat for instance, but that ain't happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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