Nicholasp27 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Mags may be on the trading block as bucks don't wanna pony up the big bucks next summer for him with bogut and gadz in the lineup so what about al for mags? we then use our pick to select rondo or best point available and bring over david andersen if we can get a good true point to mentor rondo and start until he's ready, then all the better rondo/ivey jj/chill/slim marvin/chill/donta smoove/andersen/batman mags/zaza/andersen even if we don't wanna resign mags, this gives us a greater shot at playoffs next year so that we can give the suns our pick and it won't be in the lotto this makes the trade for jj even better and hopefully we could keep mags long term, tho if he gets offered a max contract we prolly wouldn't do that would u trade al for him? would u trade al for him even if u know he will get a max contract in 2007 summer and we will not match? i'd say yes to both we get him for 1.5 years and make playoffs next year, which is good...and then we can trade/snt mags for someone else in 2007 so we get back someone who can help our team and still be a tradeable asset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted February 21, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I would do the trade in a heartbeat. I still want a point guard more but its hard to pass up on a center of Magloire's quality. Would Delk and Childress thrown in get us Ford? Al would be the Bucks PF but he could be a nice fit for them with Redd and Simmons on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragitoff Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I don't think they want to get rid of Ford do they? He's played pretty good this year after recovering from missing all of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLHawk Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 What did they give to get Magloire? I think that will tell you how much they value him. With that said, I would love to do a deal to round out our team. Al/Zaza/Lue for Magloire/Williams/Smith I think they would not do it, but it would be good to get a PG and a C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonKnight Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I was surprised to read the rumors that Pryz was mentioned in a trade to Denver for Nene. If Portland is trying to get cap space what about getting into the Portland/NY talk. Could we offer Harrington to Portland and get back Jack, J. Butler and Patterson (who would then be waived). I don't know if Jack is on the block because most Blazer posters love the guy and are wanting to deal Telfair instead (who BK will have no interest in). I would love to see Jack here and we know BK tried to obtain a late 1st rounder to draft Jack. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 i would trade al for przy and jack...possibly sign and trade przy so we don't lose him.. i would like mags though...i would even be willing to pay CLOSE to the max due to his value as a solid big man, a commidity in the league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Can the Hawks aford to sign the youngsters in a few years if they have JJ and Magloire (or some other max or near max player) signed long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 they can if we are winning and in the playoffs they can go over the cap to re-sign their own if we get rondo in the draft and al for mags and rondo/jj/marvin/smoove/mags with chill/slim/zaza/ivey off the bench is a playoff team who could seriously contend with more time and experience and maybe a few key vets here and there, and the city has embraced them and attendance is up, then i could see the owners ponying up to go above the cap to keep the team in place if they still can't make the playoffs, then we'll see mags traded next summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Magloire is intriguing for sure. He definitely is an excellent rebounder but is he really a good interior defender? He is not much of a shotblocker, but does he really play good solid man-up defense on the interior? With his previous injuries does he still have enough mobility to be a defensive force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 he plays great defense and has been awesome this year ivey/jj/marvin/smoove/mags starting lineup could become a very good defensive lineup by the end of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 He has gotten mixed reviews from the Bucks fans from what I have seen. Their defense isn't much better than the hawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 For his money I'd rather stick with Zaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted February 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 well he's a reliable rebounder and he does have a -3.2 defensive +/- and is known as a good interior defender as well as a good/great rebounder and good offensive weapon bucks fans are gonna be mixed about him since they have bogut and know mags will want a big contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 That is what I am worried about. If he is not a good defender then there is no point in trading for him even if he can rebound very well. I have read that his lack of passing and recognition skills can kill the Bucks offensive motion. Since he is limited in this manner offensively, then the only way I would want him - especially for anything resembling max money - is if he is a real honest to goodness lock down interior defender. Meaning he is a top 10 defensive center (although I am not sure that means much). Otherwise he might not be a fit and the Hawks are better off pursuing options that fit better with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted February 21, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 He is a top 10 defensive center. He is limited offensively but can still contribute. I don't think he is a max player but he will get near max money. He is a lot better than Dampier, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 right, he's alot better than dampier and honestly we can't say who's better between him and nene yet..nene has more potential however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted February 22, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 To date, Magloire is significantly better than Nene. Nene has youth on his side and can hope for a better future, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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