Premium Member Diesel Posted April 18, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 If you read some of the articles in today's AJC, there are several claims by Smoove and by Marvin and I would suppose by JJ and JC that Woody is the reason for their development being where it is. Now that Woody has shown us that he can develop players... Is it possible that Woody gets one more year without concern of being fired? Can Woody also move us to the next step of winning consistently?? Or Should we fire Woody and find a more seasoned coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 18, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I would give him one more year. The team has played hard and had pride and both the coaching (in-game) and players have developed over the course of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Yeah at this point I give him one more year too. The original plan was 3 years, might as well stick to it. I expect a much more cohesive roster next year, capable of pushing for the playoffs. Let's see what Woody can do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 1 more bad season and that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I'll say I'm glad I don't have to make this decision. Perhaps, if a clearly better coach becomes available we should give Woody the axe. Woody should have a pretty short leash next season if he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Quote: 1 more bad season and that's it yeah, and I don't even know if it's that bad. We have some very critical flaws. If we adress them even only partly, we will see tremendous progress. Depending on the kind of job Woody does this offseason, I'm expecting somewhere around a 40 win season next year, which could be an 8th seed, who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted April 18, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 of course he gets one more year. The team improved, the players on it improved and they never gave up, despite being one of the four worst teams in the league. While another coach might have gotten us a few wins more, by virtue of different on-court decisions. Nobody else could have gotten any more from this group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 yeah Woody will get one more year but he made some dumb coaching moves this year. on top of that i don't believe he motivated the troops very well on the defensive side. i'll find something i posted at the beginning of the season..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrawDaddy Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I agree that Woody made some stupid decisions early in the season, but he got better as the year went along. I htink he get's at least one more year at this point. BK has left him with a shell of a team since we don't have a real PG or C. I think BK will go before Woody does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 http://www.hawksquawk.net/forums/showflat....r=102904&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=14&Limit=25&Main=102859&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=954&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post102904 somebody got a better way of pasting these things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 http://www.hawksquawk.net/forums/showflat....r=104714&Forum=,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,All_Forums,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,&Words=&Searchpage=13&Limit=25&Main=104714&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=954&daterange=1&newerval=1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post104714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted April 18, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 The ideal that a coach can motivate someone to play defense is crazy to me. A coach teaches them where to be on defense, teaches them how to rotate and when, and teaches them things to recognize what the other team is doing. But he cannot motivate them to play defense. He can only stress to them the importance of giving the energy on that end of the court and hope that they believe it. I have no doubt that he is trying to teach them what htey need to do on the defensive end. Beyond that, it is out of his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 defense is 75% effort. you chase someone around and stay between them and the goal. the other 25% is skill. that's assuming you are taking into account how athletic these guys are. obviously i'd need alot more than effort to guard an NBA player. don't go there with your retort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin chillzatl Posted April 18, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I agree. I think we're just putting too much stock into what exactly a coach can and can't do. A coach can't motivate guys to give more effort than they want to give. If a guy doesn't like playing hard on the defensive end, that's what you get. You either cut him, trade him, bench him or deal with it as best you can. I think that's what woodson has to do. Being that he doesn't have but a few players that seem to care about giving good effort on the defensive end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted April 18, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 I voted for another year, but in my opinion the main part of a coaches job is to motivate these guys. Its his responsibility to motivate them to play D. And he does it by putting them on the bench. Look at Avery Johnson, Phil Jackson you don't think they are motivating these guys to play D. Are they're defensive schemes just far superior to the previous coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Quote: A coach can't motivate guys to give more effort than they want to give. I disagree with that, completely. A good coach, manager, structured environment can motivate people to give more effort than they would on their own. There are individuals who naturally give max effort and individuals who will not give max effort no matter who is asking them to, but most people fall in between. I personally feel like a great coach can create an environment where people are more inclined to give max effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Quote: somebody got a better way of pasting these things? Use the URL button. It works the same as the quote button you just have to make a name for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swolehawk2 Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Would not fire Woody for the sake of firing....but if a proven vet coach is available and interested, I would not hesitate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 18, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Quote: Would not fire Woody for the sake of firing....but if a proven vet coach is available and interested, I would not hesitate. I think that is fair, too. As with every position on the team, if there is a clearly better alternative out there you go for it. If you polled everyone they would want Josh Smith back next year. However, if given the opportunity to get Howard in his place they would probably all take that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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