Premium Member Diesel Posted May 9, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I went back into the stacks here at Hawksquawk and revisited a very interesting thread that made me really think about this revise.. Using the Walter rule... Draft Roy. Marvin/ our 2nd next year to Charlotte for Okafor. In FAcy, Pick up DJ MBenga. Next year when we take the floor this is our team: Roy, JJ, JSmoove, Okafor, Zaza I think Okafor is the guy that can solidify our middle. I like Roy as a match to the JJ skill set. A Big OG who can do it all. Charlotte does the trade for three reasons. 1. Fanbase. Having May, Felton, and Marvin is probably the best thing that they can have as a young franchise. 2. Need. I think when you look at Charlotte's need, they need somebody who can make the floor spread out so that Felton can work the drive and dish. 3. Uncertainty. As proud as they have been of Okafor, I think they are somewhat uncertain of his injuries. I think they purposely held him out this season.. however, he came in with a back problem... Why do we do the deal. 1. Defensive presence. If we're honest, there's nothing wrong or BU about Zaza. Zaza and Al were just a very bad defensive matchup. If you get Okafor here, Zaza becomes like Vlade... only young... 2. clear up the logjam. (Walt Rule) This shows a commitment to JSmoove. I don't want there to be any uncertainty for JSmoove when it comes time to resign him. I don't want him to feel that we played him out of his natural position or we choose Marvin over him. 3. versatility. In certain times, Okafor can play C for us in our small lineup. I like MBenga over Butler... I know... Butler has so much potential, but MBenga could be a future defensive stud. Butler is just big and menacing. Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem taking Bulter, but given my Drothers with this particular team, I would take MBenga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsuteke Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 1. offer Al and Lue/future draft choice for Gordon. 2. offer Cassell 4 yrs 40 million 3. sign a lesser PG like Claxton at market value if we're turned down 4. offer Nene 1 year 9 million 5. draft Aldridge or Marcus Williams in that order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted May 9, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Currently Okafor is their franchise player. They will want more then just MW and a second rounder to get him. I would do that trade in a heartbeat but I don't think there is enough there to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Agree...May and Felton should satisfy the Charlotte fanbase for local players - giving up Okafor would be a real stretch for them. If none of this year's injuries are chronic/longterm and they do OK in the draft they should be looking pretty good for next year. I wouldn't plug them in as a real contender - but they may be a solid vet away from competing for the 7/8 spot in the playoffs. We seem to be in the same boat though. Solid bigs and we're right there also. (IMHO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornandDieHawks Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I am not sure what Charlotte would want for Okafor. Before his injury this year he had fell out of favor with Bickerstaff and the fan base. There is alot of debate on whether he would come back the starting PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezmund Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I'd stay away from Okafor. That is too steep a price to pay (Marvin Williams) for a guy that has already had some injury problems and, IMO, doesn't have much further to go before he maxes out his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornandDieHawks Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 He might have already max out his potential. I can't see why people want to give up on MW and trade him after a rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted May 9, 2006 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I'm not sure that Okafor is their franchise player... How many games did he play this past year? The year before? I think his injury history does sorta taint his value. However, I'm willing to gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezmund Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I understand that every once in a while you need to gambe. IMO, that is why we chose Marvin Williams in the first place. Gambling doesn't mean trading a high-ceiling talent for a guy with injuries and a shallow ceiling for growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted May 9, 2006 Admin Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 If you want to see how Okafor is valued offer MW/Salim for him on realgm. I think you will find that people would choose Okafor over MW. I would love to have Okafor on our team. If we had a point guard our roster would be set. However, I think the deal would need to be sweetened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I tend to agree, Okafor would be a great fit for this team and you have to give talent to get talent. The only hiccup is Okafor's injuries - if he was cleared medically you have to at least think about it. Why has Okafor maxed out on his development? He made enormous strides in college and is still relatively new to the game. He could become and Elton Brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezmund Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Sure he could improve EDS, I just feel like the steps that MW will make will be bigger. I also feel like it is too early to consider trading MW. Lets see what we have in him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I would do Marvin for Okafor if I knew that Okafor will play at least 70 games a season. There is 2 things we will gamble 1. Okafor's injuries 2. Marvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted May 10, 2006 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I wouldn't call Okafor a low ceiling. Okafor has the ability to be a game changer. An Alonzo Morning type. A true PF/C who can change the game with his defense. No, he's not flashy... But he's no dime a dozen talent either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted May 10, 2006 Author Premium Member Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think his injuries does taint his value, but at the same time, it's not a knee... In fact, it's been a hamstring, a shoulder.. etc.. The back does concern me, but I would take that chance. He's definitely a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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