Plainview1981 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: The Hawks have two of their potential starters out there and lose to a CBA team. If these guys can't beat teams that are this bad, how can they be expected to help the Hawks win games this year? So let me get this right, The fact that Marvin Scores 30 on 11 shots get 10 rebounds 5 assist, 2 steals 1 block shot is meaningless because the team lost? I don't understand you! Marvin's doing what he should do againest non NBA players. But it's more about Shelden. 6/3 just doesn't cut it. And I know Edwards and the other guys aren't great players, but their lack of production shows that should be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: The Hawks have two of their potential starters out there and lose to a CBA team. If these guys can't beat teams that are this bad, how can they be expected to help the Hawks win games this year? So let me get this right, The fact that Marvin Scores 30 on 11 shots get 10 rebounds 5 assist, 2 steals 1 block shot is meaningless because the team lost? I don't understand you! Marvin's doing what he should do againest non NBA players. But it's more about Shelden. 6/3 just doesn't cut it. And I know Edwards and the other guys aren't great players, but their lack of production shows that should be released. Take it easy man. Where is Diesel hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: The Hawks have two of their potential starters out there and lose to a CBA team. If these guys can't beat teams that are this bad, how can they be expected to help the Hawks win games this year? So let me get this right, The fact that Marvin Scores 30 on 11 shots get 10 rebounds 5 assist, 2 steals 1 block shot is meaningless because the team lost? I don't understand you! Marvin's doing what he should do againest non NBA players. But it's more about Shelden. 6/3 just doesn't cut it. And I know Edwards and the other guys aren't great players, but their lack of production shows that should be released. Take it easy man. Where is Diesel hiding? I'm just saying "Batman" and John Edwards are dead weight. They should be released and the positions should be given to players that deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3bawla Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Sheldon fouled out in 16 minutes. Someone would say Marvin and Sheldon combined for 36 points and 17 free throws? You can't foul out in the summer league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: Sheldon fouled out in 16 minutes. Someone would say Marvin and Sheldon combined for 36 points and 17 free throws? You can't foul out in the summer league I have read somewhere that its 7 fouls for summer league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted July 16, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: But it's more about Shelden. 6/3 just doesn't cut it. Well then say that! Now we can talk about the impact on the regular season. Now, you are making the assumption that Shelden somehow was is going to start for the Hawks in the fall which is a possibility but not probable. Most people still feel that Smoove, Marvin, & Zaza will be the front line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukegotgame Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Edwards is terrible, but I like Esteban. What's wrong with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Edwards is terrible, but I like Esteban. What's wrong with him? He is playing in FIBA and kicked butts scoring 29 points 15 rebounds against Colombia. His name still shows up on the roster list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukegotgame Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: Edwards is terrible, but I like Esteban. What's wrong with him? He is playing in FIBA and kicked butts scoring 29 points 15 rebounds against Colombia. His name still shows up on the roster list. I know where he is, I was responding to hotlanta who said he sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3bawla Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: Sheldon fouled out in 16 minutes. Someone would say Marvin and Sheldon combined for 36 points and 17 free throws? You can't foul out in the summer league I have read somewhere that its 7 fouls for summer league. It's at least 10... Bargnani committed 10 in one game. But I'm pretty sure that its unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Sheldon fouled out in 16 minutes. Someone would say Marvin and Sheldon combined for 36 points and 17 free throws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrawDaddy Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Unlimited fouls in summer league. That's why I don't understand Shelden not playing more than he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Edwards is terrible, but I like Esteban. What's wrong with him? Right now, it looks like a dogfight between Shelden and Edwards for who gets the end of the bench. Esteban is looking pretty good right now. - I want to be fair to Shelden but he was supposed to be "ready now" not a project. I thought thats why we took him as opposed to someone with "upside". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted July 16, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Right now, it looks like a dogfight between Shelden and Edwards for who gets the end of the bench. You just lost a lot of credibility on this forum with the above statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 When Shelden shows he isn't just a short black Edwards, I'll apologise. So far, MR. READY NOW sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plainview1981 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: Edwards is terrible, but I like Esteban. What's wrong with him? He is playing in FIBA and kicked butts scoring 29 points 15 rebounds against Colombia. His name still shows up on the roster list. I know where he is, I was responding to hotlanta who said he sucked. What's he ever done to make him NBA worthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted July 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 ok, yeti makes the 2nd diesel/walter-esque poster so we've got 2 for shelden and 2 for marvin threads are gonna be hijacked even more this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Quote: What's he ever done to make him NBA worthy? Depends on what you mean "worthy"? Evidently he played well enough in one season to merit an extended contract. I don't think anyone's expectations are greater than him being a solid role player getting a few minutes each game. Nothing wrong with that. He has shown that he has a nice motor, and can frustrate, if not confuse, the man he's guarding. If nothing else he's good for six fouls on a great post player. Just because he's limited doesn't mean he's not worthy of playing in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 And look who had a good game also Juan Jose Barea. Like I had been saying the last month or so he will be the steal of the draft. Maybe Dallas will be stupid and we can steal him off of their roster...I'd rather have him than Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oken Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 yeah barea seems to play well...too bad he's short and stubby like lue and claxton... ._. its nice to see marvin showing flashes of doing great things... hopefully it will translate to the regular season...and him and jj and smith will tear it up that will be exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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