gutz Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Just a question..How are we that much better than Charlotte?..What has made us suddenly better than Boston and the 76ers?.. I'm not saying we are better than those teams but you have to say they are not so much better than us that we can't realistically compete for a playoff spot with those 3 teams. Give me reasons why they are so much better than we are at this point? I think the 76ers are on the decline for sure and the Celtics really only have one go to guy in PP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Are yall seriously trying to argue the efficacy of the hawks playoff chances with a dude name T-Mac? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Another thing is in asking why we are getting better compared to those teams, I suppose one answer is that we adressed our areas of need. Boston did very little, Philly did nothing and is getting old, and Charlotte added a player that can only play the same position as their star. That's why I think we gain on all 3. I think Orlando is the team that will improve the most though, and Toronto will have basically the same record as us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I disagree with Orlando. Unless Grant hill comes back healthy, their lineup is basically Nelson Reddick Hedu Howard Battie Who is the go to guy on that team? Can Reddick guard anyone? Has Howard developed an offensive game more complex than dunks and putbacks? Where is the "D"? People put a lot of stock in their finish to the season, but I don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 26, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: I disagree with Orlando. Unless Grant hill comes back healthy, their lineup is basically Nelson Reddick Hedu Howard Battie Who is the go to guy on that team? Can Reddick guard anyone? Has Howard developed an offensive game more complex than dunks and putbacks? Where is the "D"? People put a lot of stock in their finish to the season, but I don't buy it. I think people expect Darko to get larger minutes over Battie next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Maybe, but I don't anticipate Darko starting, and if he does, It still doesn't change my perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac13 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Maybe I should get a new ID like you to argue certain points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Well you are not as bad as the moderator on Real gm being a Hawks-Mavs-Fan for life. That is just blatant. I guess I'll change my name to Jordan23Nique21fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutz Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: I disagree with Orlando. Unless Grant hill comes back healthy, their lineup is basically Nelson Reddick Hedu Howard Battie Who is the go to guy on that team? Can Reddick guard anyone? Has Howard developed an offensive game more complex than dunks and putbacks? Where is the "D"? People put a lot of stock in their finish to the season, but I don't buy it. I agree Johnny. Orlando will be right there as well I think since Darko did improve towards the end of the season. But I don't put a lot of stock in their wins closing out last season since they came against teams with nothing to win for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Hey JB, factor in that somebody might pick up the PG Barea (sp?)...weren't you the one saying he was going to be good? He looked REAl good in the SL replay last night on nbatv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Hey JB, factor in that somebody might pick up the PG Barea (sp?)...weren't you the one saying he was going to be good? He looked REAl good in the SL replay last night on nbatv. This is how you know that there is a bias, as I was saying in my posts. Second in the nation in assists while scoring 20 ppg...didn't get drafted. He has the all time record in assists at Portsmouth...but he didn't get invited to Orlando. He led Las Vegas SL in assists, didn't get a contract. He kicked ass in Dallas avg 12 pts and about 7 assists but he won't get a camp invite from Dallas either. I am telling you scouts look and him and say, "He's a short Puerto Rican, he won't work out in the pros." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Well you are not as bad as the moderator on Real gm being a Hawks-Mavs-Fan for life. That is just blatant. I guess I'll change my name to Jordan23Nique21fan That user ID bothers me. I hope he gets ripped on all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I think you underestimate the impact of Dwight, who led the league in rebounding last year at the ripe age of 20, who will be continuing to improve. 16/12.5 average last year at 20. Add to that Darko who will give them an inside-outside combo at the PF/C. They have a nice little PG in Nelson, a good shooter in Turkoglu. They had a horrible mix with franchis there for half of the season, and still came within 4 games of the playoffs, winning 10 more games than us. I think they should make the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Quote: Well you are not as bad as the moderator on Real gm being a Hawks-Mavs-Fan for life. That is just blatant. I guess I'll change my name to Jordan23Nique21fan That user ID bothers me. I hope he gets ripped on all the time. I have never ever seen him get ripped on Real GM. It is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 26, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: Well you are not as bad as the moderator on Real gm being a Hawks-Mavs-Fan for life. That is just blatant. I guess I'll change my name to Jordan23Nique21fan That user ID bothers me. I hope he gets ripped on all the time. I have never ever seen him get ripped on Real GM. It is amazing. The reason he doesn't get ripped on all the time is that he was a good poster in the Hawks forum before being added as another moderator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Well you are not as bad as the moderator on Real gm being a Hawks-Mavs-Fan for life. That is just blatant. I guess I'll change my name to Jordan23Nique21fan That user ID bothers me. I hope he gets ripped on all the time. I have never ever seen him get ripped on Real GM. It is amazing. The reason he doesn't get ripped on all the time is that he was a good poster in the Hawks forum before being added as another moderator. I don't disagree that he is a good poster, it is just a ridiculous name for a moderator on the Hawks board. Do you think that Knicks fans would tolerate a moderator being named JordanfanNYC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_quest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 It kind of sounds like Wife-Mistress-Lover for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted July 26, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Well you are not as bad as the moderator on Real gm being a Hawks-Mavs-Fan for life. That is just blatant. I guess I'll change my name to Jordan23Nique21fan That user ID bothers me. I hope he gets ripped on all the time. I have never ever seen him get ripped on Real GM. It is amazing. The reason he doesn't get ripped on all the time is that he was a good poster in the Hawks forum before being added as another moderator. I don't disagree that he is a good poster, it is just a ridiculous name for a moderator on the Hawks board. Do you think that Knicks fans would tolerate a moderator being named JordanfanNYC? The Hawks board on RealGM doesn't have the same interest level as on the Squawk let alone the heavy traffic of the Knicks forum. I understand the point, but I am not too upset about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warcore Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 JJ>Paul Pierce...IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 agreed re: jj>pp or, at the very least, jj=pp either way, hawks>celtics ON PAPER in starting lineup hawks bench>>celts bench as well ON PAPER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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