Admin Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 When Solomon came in for him I noticed a couple of times during great Solomon plays that while everyone was going crazy cheering ZaZa just had this somber look on his face. I think he is worried about losing his job to Solomon and with good reason IMO. It probably won't happen this year, but I highly doubt that Z is starting for us next year barring something crazy happening. He is simply incapable of changing the game on the defensive end like Jones is capable of, which to me is far more important considering all of the offensive weapons we will have once Marvin and Chillz get back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hopefully Zaza will be spending a lot more time on the bench in the upcoming games, especially in the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators macdaddy Posted November 30, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I just said basically the same thing in another thread. I'd like to see a little more Shelden. But we'd be in trouble without ZaZa a lot of the time. He's our best post threat and he has played better D this year. Anyway, its good to have options. 'Solo' looks like a great pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Zaza gives us a lot of second chance points with his offensive rebounding like last game he had 5 off reb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Is still like Zaza, I just get furious when he either puts the ball on the floor in traffic, or pulls the ball down around his waist close in to the basket. He and Josh looked visibly frustrated on the court when JJ and Lue stuck with the two man game. We probably needed to keep the ball in their hands to win, but I hope its not the seed of some broader discontent. Both of those guys are emotional, and if they start heading in a negative direction, you can lose them forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 30, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: Anyway, its good to have options. 'Solo' looks like a great pick. Absolutely. It's a win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 i like zaza and he did a great job on boards yesterday his offense the past 2 games has been annoying, but he'll get over it i did like the shelden/solo rotation on defense tho...very nice solo looks like he should get 10mpg for the hawks rather than go to nbdl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 I think Zaza is jus frustrated in his game like everyone else.Every player has ups and downs,it just seems that when Zaza has bad game,it´s more than bad.I´m not worried anyways that he can rise from the mud an start playing like in first games.Also people need to stop bash so much our players.He´s not rebounding,bla bla,he´s not this and that.We have like youngest team in NBA history and we´re playing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Z is worried? LOL. You guys don't know a great thing when its looking right at you. The guy had 12pts and 13 boards last night. Yeah, he really sucks. And he is an old man at 22 so he has no more room to improve. Do you realize he is YOUNGER than Solomon Jones and Shelden Williams? Z should be a rookie this year. He gets a bad rap from some people on this board and it is just stupidity. He is close to Bogut, the #1 pick in the draft. Shelden is also older than him...if Shelden put up 12/13 some of you guys would be foaming at the mouth. Or, the same people defending a lousy coach then turn around and put down a 22 year old center who consistently does good things. I will tell you other fans from different teams would love to have him. And some Hawk fans, of all people, don't appreciate him. If you don't like Z you should stop watching because you are ignorant to the game. Just wait until this kid is 24 or 25. Maybe some will have a better appreciation for him. BTW, if you want to watch a maddening player who really makes the most bonehead plays...watch Josh Smith. I know, he is only 20, he is young. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted November 30, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: Z is worried? LOL. You guys don't know a great thing when its looking right at you. The guy had 12pts and 13 boards last night. Yeah, he really sucks. And he is an old man at 22 so he has no more room to improve. Do you realize he is YOUNGER than Solomon Jones and Shelden Williams? Z should be a rookie this year. He gets a bad rap from some people on this board and it is just stupidity. He is close to Bogut, the #1 pick in the draft. Shelden is also older than him...if Shelden put up 12/13 some of you guys would be foaming at the mouth. Or, the same people defending a lousy coach then turn around and put down a 22 year old center who consistently does good things. I will tell you other fans from different teams would love to have him. And some Hawk fans, of all people, don't appreciate him. If you don't like Z you should stop watching because you are ignorant to the game. Just wait until this kid is 24 or 25. Maybe some will have a better appreciation for him. BTW, if you want to watch a maddening player who really makes the most bonehead plays...watch Josh Smith. I know, he is only 20, he is young. Exactly. Darn Pete, never thought that I would agree with you on anything but you are right on the money with this one. People on this board do support their favorite and defend them even when their play is indefensible and dog players they don't like and criticize everything about them. Zaza play is far from being the problem with this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 yup this is why i don't wanna do any trades right now i think we should be patient with what we have and let them grow and improve and mesh and then in a year or two we can examine a trade that may help us become contenders, but we don't yet know any of our players' (except maybe jj/lue) game yet...chill/smoove/marvin/shelden/zaza all have evolving games that may change dramatically in the next year or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 30, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: yup this is why i don't wanna do any trades right now Me either. The only thing I want to see is the Hawks sign (or trade for) a veteran PF to backup Shelden. I've wondered if the Nuggets would send Joe Smith to the Hawks for a conditional 2nd rounder. Don't think the owners would take on the extra $, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: The only thing I want to see is the Hawks sign (or trade for) a veteran PF to backup Shelden. I'd rather just play Solomon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted November 30, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: I'd rather just play Solomon. I didn't expect Smith to take Jones' minutes. I was thinking more about having another veteran big for those times when the young players are playing like, well, young players. (Good to have you back, by the way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholasp27 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 i don't want any more bigs we've got zaza/shelden/lo/solo that can all play center we've got smoove/shelden/marvin/solo/lo that can all play pf we've got smoove/marvin/chill/jj/frieje that can play sf i'd rather give solo more minutes and make room for marvin and chill's return rather than get a backup pf in a trade or signing one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrywest Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: i don't want any more bigs we've got zaza/shelden/lo/solo that can all play center we've got smoove/shelden/marvin/solo/lo that can all play pf we've got smoove/marvin/chill/jj/frieje that can play sf i'd rather give solo more minutes and make room for marvin and chill's return rather than get a backup pf in a trade or signing one... Yes. We are missing a lot of players to injury and Joe Smith majored in injury. What does he really add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJJ Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Zaza is NOT a quality STARTING NBA C. Sure, he can be a very good backup, but if we are EVER going to become a great team, it will be because we add a Solid STARTING Quality C. Anyone know any good C in FA in the next few yrs? or a NBA-ready C coming out of the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 Quote: i don't want any more bigs we've got zaza/shelden/lo/solo that can all play center we've got smoove/shelden/marvin/solo/lo that can all play pf we've got smoove/marvin/chill/jj/frieje that can play sf i'd rather give solo more minutes and make room for marvin and chill's return rather than get a backup pf in a trade or signing one... I agree about no more bigs. I was thinking about who we were going to go after with that Indiani pick, but the way things are looking now, we may not need another big. At this point, we would be better off getting a PG. Maybe one of those OSU or UNC phenoms. Or the kid from GT. There are so many talented kids out there. Hopefully they all come out so one falls our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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