bisonblu Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 The Hawks can improve their squad by acquiring Allen Iverson, remain under the salary cap, continue their rebuild, sellout their arena and make the playoffs. Sixers get: Marvin Williams, SF, #2 overall pick - $4M Speedy Claxton, PG, good for locker room - $6M ZaZa Pachulia, C, undervalued BIG, double-double - $4M Hawks get: Allen Iverson, G, former MVP, All-star - $18M Louis Williams, G, local ATL product - $1M Deal fits under CBA rules after the 15th, which is Friday, they can verbally agree now and make it official Friday. This frees JJ, creates minutes for Shelden and Solomon, and unclogs the SF spot when Chill returns. Also, solidifys our backcourt for the near and long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 in a movie theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted December 11, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 ...and it's a ridiculous trade to top it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted December 11, 2006 Moderators Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Philly would take that trade so fast it would make your head spin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Bison, any chance you from Philly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 throw in steven hunter and you have a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 That's 3 of our starters, Philly would have: Pg - Speedy SG - Igoudala SF - Marvin PF - Webber C - Pachulia Philly would look awesome after the trade. PG: Iverson SG: Joe SF: Smoove PF: Shelden C: Solomon/Wright We would still be thin inside with that line-up. Philly wont get a deal better than that, not even close. What did Orlando receive for T-MAC??? Ariza What did Lakers get for Shaq?? Odom What did Pacers get for Artest? nada, AL If you trade a superstar that is in his 30's and haven't won a thing you aren't going to get a fair value. Same goes for T-Wolves and KG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted December 11, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Quote: That's 3 of our starters, Philly would have: Pg - Speedy SG - Igoudala SF - Marvin PF - Webber C - Pachulia Philly would look awesome after the trade. PG: Iverson SG: Joe SF: Smoove PF: Shelden C: Solomon/Wright We would still be thin inside with that line-up. Philly wont get a deal better than that, not even close. What did Orlando receive for T-MAC??? Ariza What did Lakers get for Shaq?? Odom What did Pacers get for Artest? nada, AL If you trade a superstar that is in his 30's and haven't won a thing you aren't going to get a fair value. Same goes for T-Wolves and KG. Actually, it looks like a wash. We get a prolific scorer and Philly gets a decent center/power forward and a player who may be good down the road in Marvin. Speedy probably wouldn't play enough to matter. Their interior D would stink with that lineup though. We'd be back searching for another stiff to play center for us. That has to be easier than trying to find a starting PG. Philly would have to search for a PG to fill in while Speedy's knees are bothering him. Marvin would get a chance to start right away. A lot of people seem to hate on Pachulia anyway so why not? We'd make the playoffs and get beaten in the second round as opposed to barely getting in and getting swept in the first. It'll never happen anyway so why bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Dude, no way we go to second round with that interior defense. I am not sure if we are even playoffs material with that lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Sure because your starting backcourt scoring 60ppg and dishing 14 assists would be really prohibitive to making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Unfortunately there are two sides to the court. And if AI comes here he won't have Deke to cover up for him when he cheats off his man to gamble for steals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Quote: Unfortunately there are two sides to the court. And if AI comes here he won't have Deke to cover up for him when he cheats off his man to gamble for steals. That is why we have Smoove and Solomon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Unfortunately we also have Zaza and BLo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Quote: Unfortunately we also have Zaza and BLo. If Cleveland can make the ECF with that Stiff Z, we damn sure can get there with Zaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Big Z can actually make something other than a tip in. And he can intimidate in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Marvin "could" go on to do great things, but he might not. Its an almost certaintly that AI has several more years of greatness in him. Combine that with JJ's greatness and the promise of Smoove, Chillz, and Shelden it would be very hard to deny the potential of that group. We go into next year with the need for a quality starting center and thats about it. We still have TLue, Salim, Chillz, and Jones off the bench as quality players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted December 12, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 I don't want the last 2,3 years tops of Iverson's questionable "impact" at its peak or close to it. No thanks at all to Iverson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 That is because you are happy with mediocrity, thank God you don't work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member hawkman Posted December 12, 2006 Premium Member Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Less talk more IVERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding. It won't happen, but I have to admit that I'm all for it. Our team as it sits now seems like it was already built with him in mind anyway. JJ and Salim are the only two players on this team that can create their own shots. Smoove and Chill are the "do-it-all" utility types. Shelden is the blue collar defensive type that can bruise and snag rebounds in the middle. JJ is the perfect backcourt mate to Iverson due to his passing and ball handling ability. Iverson would bring an exciting, explosive scorer to pair with JJ. We're not going to get that dominant defensive presence any time soon so why not just outscore our opponents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnybravo4 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 Makes too much sense Hawkman. But then why would our genius owners want to increase the value of a team they will eventually lose at cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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