TexasPete Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Although the ASG clearly don't appear very astute when it comes to judging the performance of their coach or GM, it is becoming very clear that both of these gentlemen need to hit the road. Although Smith's actions were not very professional, it was the result of Woody calling the same garbage for T-Lue all night. The fact that Lue had a "good" game is beside the point because the dude monopolizes the ball and we became stagnant. Smith was frustrated because of our offensive stupidity. I think last night sealed Woodson's fate or it should have anyway. We all know that BK has never drafted the best player and the Shelden pick was just stupid. So, is BK fired as he should be? Taking into account the entire ownership mess what is the general consensus on BK and/or Woodson getting fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJlaysitup Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Smith suspended two games after tirade By Sekou Smith The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 04/09/07 Hawks forward Josh Smith was suspended for two games without pay by the team Monday, a day after his tirade during a loss to Philadelphia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin capstone21 Posted April 9, 2007 Admin Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I have no problem with him being diciplined. He has to respect the coaches. He needs to be careful before he develops one of those bad reputations. He got on pretty childish before with AJ. I hope he is not getting a big head from his recent strong play. I still think we need a coach with a different philosophy but while Woody is in the drivers seat, he is in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted April 9, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Josh deserves to be suspended, you simply can't do what he did. Woody and Knight deserved to be fired for their incompetence but Smoove needed to be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted April 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I agree that Josh has to learn more self control. But I also think that the owners are likely to look at seriously firing Woodson and getting a different coach in here. BK should be fired as well although I'm not sure they can convince another GM to work for them especially now. The one thing they can do is offer any new coach or GM a full 4-year deal so even if Belkin wins they get paid. We need new leadership in here desperately. Woody should never let Lue monopolize the ball over and over either. That isn't how basketball games are won. Woody doesn't know how games are won... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyphish1 Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 No, BK is not gonna be fired (I hope). Woody's days may be numbered (I also hope). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Quote: No, BK is not gonna be fired (I hope). Woody's days may be numbered (I also hope). Why would you "hope" to keep Bk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted April 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Chill over Deng Marvin over Deron/Paul Shelden over Roy/Foye Speedy signing Lo signing 4 backup PG's worth 13M, no good PG Just why does Woody deserve the axe and BK not? This should be interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Frankly i think BK deserves the axe more. At least Woody can say he didn't have much to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member AtLaS Posted April 9, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Let's not forget the Terry for Walker trade, and subsequently Walker for a trashbag. Also killing any cap we had by those stupid signings and the completely pointless AJ trade. Both should go, but BK is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Is this the final year of Woody's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Quote: Is this the final year of Woody's contract? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted April 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 This year or next, not sure. I'm not even sure Woody is being paid like an NBA coach. I agree that Knight should go before Woodson although Woody needs to go no question. Even Woody would have been better with Deng, Deron, and/or Brandon Roy. BK is just a lousy GM. If the ASG still retains these two knuckleheads that would prove their own incompetance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted April 9, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Quote: Frankly i think BK deserves the axe more. At least Woody can say he didn't have much to work with. I agree. Woodson was a first time head coach asked to take on the youngest team in the league and in all these years not ONCE has he had a real starting point guard or a roster that doesn't needlessly duplicate the same 2/3 position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 I admit AI2 and Deng are clearly better than CHildress. But don't punsih him for that Marvin move just yet because you have to see if Marvn blossoms or not next year and what we do with that Indy pick. A blossoming Marvin AND Conley/Law >>>>>>> Paul/Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinctybldh Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 we need to bring in a coach and gm that has a clue. Let's cross our fingers this is the off season that it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyphish1 Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Y'all are crazy...BK night aint that bad...he deserves at least one more off-season...Woodson has shown he is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNorthCydeRises Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Quote: Let's not forget the Terry for Walker trade, and subsequently Walker for a trashbag. Also killing any cap we had by those stupid signings and the completely pointless AJ trade. Both should go, but BK is worse. You do know that the Terry for Walker trade enabled us to not only get about 14 million off the books, but also gave us an extra 1st round pick. The money and the pick was used to get Joe Johnson here. If it wasn't for the prospect of paying him that extra 8 million to give him that first year salary of 20 million, Phoenix probably matches the deal. But because we pulled a "jack move" like that, Phoenix blinked, and we got JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 Bk has already had 3 or 4 offseasons to get this team a starting caliber pg and center.And what has he done? Drated 5 fowards in the last 3 years, No centers ,and 1 crappy d-league pg (Ivy) Im tired of BK saying that postions don't matter. and let's just put 5 good basketball players on the court. That style has given us a record of 67-173 the last three years. 105 fricking games under 500 The Mavs can win more games this year, than we have in 3 years combined!!! That alone, shows that it's time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejay Posted April 9, 2007 Report Share Posted April 9, 2007 To draft MW when the entire world KNEW that you needed a point guard in a point guard loaded draft should be grounds for dismissal. That's a draft where we'll be looking back on it ten years from now and wonder why he wasn't fired the second after stepping off the podium. We wouldn't be waiting/praying/hoping for MW to come out of his shell and become a player; we'd already have one. If BK would've had his ish together, the Hawks wouldn't have $13 million commmitted to FOUR BACKUP POINT GUARDS NOW . And that's just ONE of his picks, folks. I would go down the SW road but its too congested with traffic right now for me to bother. As for Childress, he is a good role player and 6th man but as I've stated a million times, you don't draft role players to come off the bench with the 6th pick; you draft for starter material (i.e. Deng/Iguodala). If given the choice to fire just one of them, the first one off the island would be BK by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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