Charman212002 Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I read Chad Ford's chat yesterday and it got me thinking. In it he mentioned the Bucks would probably trade Andrew Bogut if they landed the #1 in the Draft and picked Greg Oden. So my question to you all is: Would we be interested in such a deal, and what would it take on our part to score Bogut? While his numbers are far from the Shaq/Yao level, Andrew is a legit 7'0 big man who can rebound and shoot at a good to great level and his passing skills are excellent. Let's assume we don't land a top three pick. Would Milwaukee take Marvin for Andrew straight up? It would be a swap of the top of the 05' draft class filling needs for both teams. The Bucks frontline would consist of Oden/ Villanueva/Williams(Marvin) and ours would be Bogut/Williams(Sheldon)/Smith. Both teams benefit in the long run. On our end Josh Smith could slide over to the more natural small forward position, and his help defense could only improve playing next to two solid (if not spectacular) big men. Draft the best point available with the Indy pick or trade it for Jarrett Jack (my preference) and suddenly our Frankenstein roster of wings would look like a real team (and a pretty good one at that). Hawks: PG: Jarrett Jack or Indy pick SG: Joe Johnson SF: Josh Smith PF: Sheldon Williams C: Andrew Bogut 6th Man: Josh Childress Bucks: PG: T.J. Ford SG: Michael Redd SF: Marvin Williams PF: Charlie Villanueva C: Greg Oden 6th Man: Ruben Patterson I could see both of these teams battling near the top of the Eastern Conference for years to come. On paper they’d be great match ups, and if nothing else they’d be pretty darn fun to watch. Of course for all of this to Happen Milwaukee has to land Oden. However, with the 3rd worst record the scenario is really not all that far-fetched. And so I turn it over to you Hawksquawk, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charman212002 Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Oops! Should have put Mo Williams instead of T.J. Ford at the point. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 13, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I thought about that too. It's just a question of what do the Buck want. I was thinking about leveraging our 2nd pick position against the Clippers (who desperately need a PG) in order to get Kaman. I might even do: Zaza/#12 for Kaman/#17... They'd be all over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted April 13, 2007 Moderators Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Very interesting idea - and definitely worth pursuing for the Hawks if things shake out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 This is just a question, since I haven't watched the Bucks play much, but is Bogut really better then Zaza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charman212002 Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 It's a fair question. Their stats as far as I can see are pretty similar but I tend to think Bogut is a better passer and has more of an upside. Andrew Bogut PPG 12.3 RPG 8.8 APG 3.0 SPG .74 BPG .53 FG% .553 FT% .577 3P% .200 MPG 34.2 Zaza PPG 12.2 RPG 6.9 APG 1.5 SPG 1.07 BPG .50 FG% .474 FT% .786 3P% .000 MPG 28.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 i like kaman but i am not willing to absorb his huge contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GST Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 My problem with Bogut is that he isn't a strong defender, some would even say weak. If we acquired Bogut, I don't think we would solve our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member AtLaS Posted April 13, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Man, didn't realize Bogut was that poor a FT shooter (57%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Most of us either over value our own players or think they are terrible, depending on who we are. Here is a good example. Bogut vs Zaza. Both are still VERY young. We would love to have Bogut. We hate Zaza. Yet, when we compare the cold, hard facts, guess what! There is VERY little difference between these two young players. Shocking, isn't it. Stats are so close - Wow! Bogot MAY be better in some parts of his game, but Zaza sure has him from the free throw line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 13, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Zaza gets devalued a lot around here. I think however, that ownership and management likes him. So, I suspect, our draft will be for a PG... Woody will get the axe. You will see the rise of our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I am a big big Zaza critic but even I know there is no way in hell we should make that move. It's basically a lateral move. Bogut is no better than Zaza and they are about the same age. And to give up a pick that could land a franchise PG to get him would be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Quote: So, I suspect, our draft will be for a PG... But two hours ago you said Quote: I doubt BK goes for a PG. Watch him take Best Forward available. I don't think BK has it in him to draft a PG. click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Diesel Posted April 13, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 The first post was Sarcasm and frustration. I'm just tired of BK passing on our PG need. I can see us taking a PG..> BUT I FEAR us going for Sf and calling him BPA (Again)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Quote: I'm just tired of BK passing on our PG need. I can see us taking a PG..> BUT I FEAR us going for Sf and calling him BPA (Again)... OK that i can understand. Hopefully Conley will declare and BK won't have much choice but to take Law since Conley will probably go first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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