DeacKillsaDevil Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Draft Projection: Lottery Similarities: Vlade Divac Hawes announced on April 5th that he was declaring for the 2007 NBA Draft. Hawes, will not hire an agent to preserve his college eligibility. Nephew of Steve Hawes, who averaged 8.4 ppg over 10 NBA seasons (1974-85). Positives: Skilled big man with advanced low-post moves for a kid his age. Can score with either hand around the basket. Excellent shooter who can play the high post and work the pick and pop. Good passer for a big man. Excellent basketball IQ. As fundamentally sound as any big man in the country. Negatives: Needs to add strength to play in the post. Just an average athlete and rebounder. Struggles as a defender at times against more athletic opponents. Summary: Hawes doesn't have the athletic upside of many of the top prospects in the draft, but his basketball skill and size should translate into a very solid NBA career. Think Vlade Divac. At this point, Hawes is looking like a legit lottery pick if he decides to stay in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiatlhawksfan Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 He won't be there. Chicago really likes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Conley/Hawes is my best case scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 agreed..if there is no trade, this will my best guess on what could happen in our draft and i'm ok with that...but like above poster said, IF hawes makes it that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeacKillsaDevil Posted May 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 What about : Draft Yi at #3, Hawes at #11 and sign Bibby (I believe he is a free agent). Or draft Yi at #3, draft LAw or Critt at #11 and sign Darko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB21 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 That would be a perfect scenario for the Hawks, IMO. Mike Conley Jr. and Spencer Hawes would work very well together, IMO. Mike Conley Jr. plays great off the high pick, and Spencer Hawes is a high post oriented big man. This will create a lot of pick and pop as well as pick and roll situations between the two. I'm just not sure Spencer Hawes will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AHF Posted May 30, 2007 Moderators Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: What about : Draft Yi at #3, Hawes at #11 and sign Bibby (I believe he is a free agent). Or draft Yi at #3, draft LAw or Critt at #11 and sign Darko. We don't have the cap room to sign either Bibby or Darko. Our cap room is very limited this offseason compared to past years. We would have to unload salary before signing either of those players or do a sign and trade where we got rid of salary to take those guys on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swatguy Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 It sounds like Zaza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uga2006 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: It sounds like Zaza. Exactly my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascar78 Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: It sounds like Zaza. Not really though. I don't know the exact measurements but Hawes seems taller, and has more of a prototypical center body. Also Zaza gets most of his non-jumper points by just barelling into a guy and hoping for a lucky bounce or a foul. Hawes has a nice up and under, and a decent jump shot. Hawes also seems to contest shots better, although neither one is a jumper. In short, to me, Zaza is a big PF playing center, whereas Hawes is a center. I think Hawes is a better passer too, and will set better screens. Not sure how they compare in rebounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Zaza doesn't have a polished offensive game and he shoots a low percentage. He is a good offensive player in stretches because he's relentless on the offensive boards and he has a sneaky quick spin move. He fumbles the ball a lot and makes poor decisions when to make a move and when to pass. Hawes is fundamentally sound and has an array of weapons with the ball in the post. Just because they're both white, 6"11", and not great defenders doesn't make them the same player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: Zaza doesn't have a polished offensive game and he shoots a low percentage. Zaza had one of the highest shooting percentages on the team at >47%. He is also the only reliable post player on the team. His post moves are improving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: Conley/Hawes is my best case scenario. Agreed. My only concern is that they are both so young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 I have never seen Hawes and i guess he would be a good pick at 11, but the thought of a Smith/Hawes combo defensively doesn't seem like it would work that well. If we get Hawes we would probably still have to get a defensive center somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 47% is dismal for a post player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: 47% is dismal for a post player. And that is the same point that I've been make about our power forward shooting 43% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesheedera Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Alright, not sure what we're discussing here, but my point was that Hawes will be better all around player than Zaza, and a far better offensive player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Peoriabird Posted May 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Quote: Alright, not sure what we're discussing here, but my point was that Hawes will be better all around player than Zaza, and a far better offensive player. Don't know Hawes' game at all so i can't comment on his potential effectiveness in the NBA. I'll just have to take your word on this one. But the side discussion is if 47% is bad for your center. What percentage is acceptable for your starting power forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 JO shot 44%, just like Josh Smith. And he isn't 21 years old. Generally speaking i would like to see pfs shoot around 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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