jaywalker72 Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Huge Insider Blog today found at: http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index...ht&lid=tab1pos2 Here is a portion: The Hawks brought in Al Horford and Mike Conley on Monday. From what I can gather, they are still leaning strongly toward Horford at No. 3. There is still a lot of talk about the Hawks trading No. 11 if Conley isn't on the board. While we've heard Jarrett Jack in the past, it appears the Hawks have their eye on Seattle's Luke Ridnour. In my mind, the guard they should go after is Jose Calderon. The Raptors want into the draft badly and Calderon would be a great fit in Atlanta -- and they could absorb his entire salary because they are under the cap. But, again, we have to take all Hawks trade talk with a grain of salt. Billy Knight is notoriously slow on pulling the trigger in deals. "He spends more time thinking and re-thinking about deals than any GM in the league -- to say he's deliberative is putting it kindly," one NBA agent said. The Hawks are also tied in a legal battle for ownership which means that any major spending has to be approved by all parties -- a difficult task to say the least. But some sources say the Hawks can make a deal, despite the complications. That's why you're hearing talk of a Hawks mega-swap for Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Marion or Randolph. The Hawks could package Zaza Pachulia, Lue, Lorenzen Wright, the No. 3 pick and, depending on who they get back, one of their young prospects like Josh Childress or Marvin Williams to make a deal work financially. Seems like the smart thing to do in Atlanta. Put Joe Johnson on the floor with Josh Smith, a guy like KG or O'Neal and then get a point guard at No. 11 like Calderon or Ridnour and the Hawks could be immediate contenders in the East. It would be a nice story if it happens. But right now that's a big if. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exodus Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 i would rather have Calderon over Jack and Ridnour. Raps fans seem to think trade talk between the two teams is serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosgrim Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Eh, I am cold on Garnett and JO due to their contracts, age, and what we have to give up to get them under the cap. Remember due to legal problems the team can't go over the cap, thus any trade for one of these guys would leave us with no wiggle room under the restrictions to get players to fill out the roster. 11 for Calderon is good, but I think we must insist on sending one of Lue/AG/Speedy/Lo along with it to retain our cap flexibility. For me, I am actually fine with picking up two more players in the draft and then trading one of the current forwards (Childress/Marvin/Sheldon) for vet help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oiatlhawksfan Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 IDK, about Caldron, isn't he a free-agent after this season, he'll most likely be asking for big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasPete Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I love Calderon but he is gone after this year. He is a great shooter and distributor, a guy that could really run our offense. His D is porous. 1. Jack 2. Calderon 3. Just Say HELLO NO to Ridnour What is he thinking? The rumors were strong last year that the Sonics wanted our Indy pick and we wouldn't part with it. Now that the pick has higher value BK is interested? I'm done with the Hawks as a serious fan if he blows 11 on Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I'm down with Calderon. I'm actually ok with Ridnour but they would have to give us something besides him for the 11 pick....But Calderon would be better. Seems like at times he had the flow of Toronto going more. I'd like to extend his contract though early on. Don't want to lose him. Then again, I think he'd work with us if he knows he has the keys to a playoff machine here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Two things: 1. Calderon's D is mediocre, but not a terrible problem. There are far worse options out there (e.g., Ridnour). 2. Because of the Gilbert Arenas rule, the team holding Jose's rights can match any deal when he's a free agent. I would mostly be worried that he's going to want to jump to wherever Gasol is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Atlantaholic Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I wouldn't be done as a hawks fan if we get Luke with the 11th... but I would kick the [censored] out of my cat, and body-slam my tv monitor if it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Quote: Two things: 1. Calderon's D is mediocre, but not a terrible problem. There are far worse options out there (e.g., Ridnour). 2. Because of the Gilbert Arenas rule, the team holding Jose's rights can match any deal when he's a free agent. I would mostly be worried that he's going to want to jump to wherever Gasol is. What if we traded the #3 for Gasol and #11 for Calderon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 We'd have to change the team's colors back to red and yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 I thought the same thing when I read that, jdu. It would make sense for Gasol to be willing to come to Atlanta if we got Calderon, too. Plus, both are vets and fill areas of need (PG, post scorer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Yes, yes in fact I am. Chalk it up in the "more likely to happen than not" category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Was the jersey change a request from Gasol as well? (In all seriousness, what is the plan for landing Calderon? #11?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSomerset Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Two trades??? Yahoo! Calderon/AJ JJ/Salim Marvin/ ??Free agent...Guessing Chillz is gone in Gasol trade Smoove/Shelden Gasol/Zaza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 This is one of the draft night scenarios I was told was more likely than unlikely to happen. Which the way this source conveys information means its probable to happen but its not a 100% lock to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 Am I right (or do you know) that the Calderon trade won't happen unless the Gasol one does first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 That's entering the realm of things that I am not supposed to repeat. I will say that the one would probably bring the other for obvious reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidSomerset Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 One more question though. Would the Raps take Childress for Calderon straight up instead of 11 for Calderon? Or are they locked in on that draft pick? Or would Chillz already be gone in the Gasol trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Sothron Posted June 26, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 He would probably be used in the Gasol trade if it were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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