Ford Insider: Hawks in Great Position to Deal

[AtLaS]

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1st, Graham would be the backup SF. Who cares?

2nd, 6/3 in limited minutes isn't THAT bad.

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Would you rather Childress or Graham be your backup SF? IMO it should be Childress for Calderon, or #11/filler for Calderon. Otherwise no deal, Calderon has proved NOTHING to warrant the #11/Childress, especially since we have to give him a contract next year anyway.

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Salim/Childress -for - Calderon/Graham works under the cap, but it's not enough for Toronto IMO. Perhaps substituting Solomon Jones for Salim?

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I would do either one of those deals, they are much better than #11/Childress.

[mrhonline]

Colangelo knows as well as Knight that Calderon would be a starter on half the teams in the NBA, and that he's RFA next year.

#11/AJ -for- Calderon does work. Plus, it clears out the PG glut the Hawks would have had. If they draft Law, they'll have:

Speedy/Law/AJ/Claxton = 4 backup PG's

With the above trade, they have:

Calderon/Speedy/Lue = Starter, two backups

That's a MUCH improved PG rotation IMO.

[BossTweed]

Yeah, I think you're probably right. I just thought we might be getting ahead of ourselves.

I'll feel bad for the Toronto fans though since they are getting their hopes up that they can get a bit more than just a #11 pick for him.

[mrhonline]

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Would you rather Childress or Graham be your backup SF?

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I think it's more a matter of how much it takes to pry Calderon away. Toronto has early Bird rights, so they can match any offer for him next year.

[mudderfudder77]

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Colangelo knows as well as Knight that Calderon would be a starter on half the teams in the NBA, and that he's RFA next year.

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Quoted for truth.

[TexasPete]

TJ Ford is their guy, they aren't spending huge dollars on their backup PG. Plus, Calderon wants to start.

[BossTweed]

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Colangelo knows as well as Knight that Calderon would be a starter on half the teams in the NBA, and that he's RFA next year.

#11/AJ -for- Calderon does work. Plus, it clears out the PG glut the Hawks would have had. If they draft Law, they'll have:

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Yeah, I think somewhere in the #11 to #11+AJ/Lue range is the right area for the trade. It might not excite Toronto fans, but the Hawks don't need 4 PG's anyway, and they will get a backup to take Calderon's place plus a future starter at #11.

That's all assuming we can get him to sign an extension for sure.

[frosgrim]

Is that Woody will finally have to learn some Spanish so that he can understand what is going on between our new players

In all seriousness I would hope we get a second round pick out of all these moves just so we can get another wing player. Heck maybe even Pau's brother

[BossTweed]

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In all seriousness I would hope we get a second round pick out of all these moves just so we can get another wing player. Heck maybe even Pau's brother

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That was the other thing I was thinking of. Don't we have to pick up a first round pick somewhere along the line? You can't go back to back years without a first round pick right? Where would we get that from?

[Nicholasp27]

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we can't do 3/11/filler for gasol/calderon unless one of them sends back an UNPROTECTED 1st for next year or a 1st this year

[frosgrim]

The way around that is that we make the pick, and then trade it. Hence, the idea that we are taking Horford at 3 is a lock, makes some sense, as he's being taken as part of a trade.

[AtLaS]

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Speedy

/Law/AJ/

Claxton

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4

backup PG's

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I don't think Law will be a backup, though.

[mrhonline]

Woops! I'm haunted by Speedy Claxton!

I don't think Law will be more than a borderline starter for the next couple of years. Most rookie PG's who were primarily focused on scoring in college take a few years to become full-time starters at the point.

[yellowhawks]

I'm a new poster. I've been reading this forum for a while and finally I decided to post here.

If we get Calderon and Gasol I would buy season tickets in a second. The past few years i went an average of 20 games per season, but with them I wouldn't miss a game. I'm from Spain and I've seen both player since they were kids. They are great!!

Sorry if I had english mistakes

P.S.: If we get them, don't expect the Hispanic population to go to the Hawks games because they don't care about Spain and there aren't more than 200 spaniards in the area.