Wurider05 Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 AS of June 30, 2007, where do we rank in terms of talent in the eastern conference as a whole team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member mrhonline Posted June 30, 2007 Premium Member Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 It's hard to say. A lot depends on Law's acclimation and Speedy's health, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosgrim Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 I think we are a 42 win team. Where that gets us in the playoffs I have no idea, but its definately in the playoffs, somewhere between 8 and 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezmund Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 I thought on talent alone we were top 8 before we drafted Law and Horford. There are teams with one or two stars but with severe dropoffs afterwards. From top to bottom we have a longer list of talented players but might lack potency at the top. Teams like Washington, Cleveland, Boston (use to be), Indiana and Orlando are heavily based on the production of one key player (Arenas, Lebron, PP, JO and Howard). None of those teams have 6-7 players as talented as JJ, Smith, Marvin, Horford, Law and Childress. If Marvin continues to grow and Smith makes improvements here and there then we could make some noise. If Law and Horford's game translates at least somewhat well to the NBA then we could be REALLY dangerous. Cleveland made the NBA finals with one player, IMO. Outside of Lebron, their roster is pathetic, IMO. We don't have a Lebron obviously but we have A LOT they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Quote: I thought on talent alone we were top 8 before we drafted Law and Horford. There are teams with one or two stars but with severe dropoffs afterwards. From top to bottom we have a longer list of talented players but might lack potency at the top. Teams like Washington, Cleveland, Boston (use to be), Indiana and Orlando are heavily based on the production of one key player (Arenas, Lebron, PP, JO and Howard). None of those teams have 6-7 players as talented as JJ, Smith, Marvin, Horford, Law and Childress. If Marvin continues to grow and Smith makes improvements here and there then we could make some noise. If Law and Horford's game translates at least somewhat well to the NBA then we could be REALLY dangerous. Cleveland made the NBA finals with one player, IMO. Outside of Lebron, their roster is pathetic, IMO. We don't have a Lebron obviously but we have A LOT they don't. This team is the worst team in the NBA still, there's no reason you wishful think everything else, Everyone gotten better including the Hawks. Here my take. The Hawks still need some major things in order to be sucessful. I think they need Camby, if the Hawks can trade Zaza and Josh Smith for Camby and a future 1st that would give this team a talented vet at Center and it would ensure that the offense flows and that would raise the level of this team to higher heights then ever this decade. I like this squad PG: AJ, Law, Speedy SG: JJ, Chillz SF: Marvin, Chillz PF: Horford, Soloman C: Camby, Shelden, Wright. With chemistry, the playoffs is likely in 2009. It's just too much to give Smith and Zaza for, but we need a pick for 2008. Indy has Dunleavy, Diogu, Granger, and O'Neal who better then anyone on the Hawks, not to mention they has average chemistry which is better then the Hawks. Wizards, Cavs, and Orl are alot better then Hawks. Orl needs to make a good signing this off season though, still better then the Hawks. Boston with the addition of Ray Ray and PP are much better then what the Hawks have. Gooden, Big Z, and Boobie are not patheic, Josh Smith is. Once again your going by highlights and ESPN logic. No wonder why your still a fan, you wishful think everything that's you don't see. You rarely watch the other teams in the league outside of the Hawks right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurider05 Posted June 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Quote: Quote: I thought on talent alone we were top 8 before we drafted Law and Horford. There are teams with one or two stars but with severe dropoffs afterwards. From top to bottom we have a longer list of talented players but might lack potency at the top. Teams like Washington, Cleveland, Boston (use to be), Indiana and Orlando are heavily based on the production of one key player (Arenas, Lebron, PP, JO and Howard). None of those teams have 6-7 players as talented as JJ, Smith, Marvin, Horford, Law and Childress. If Marvin continues to grow and Smith makes improvements here and there then we could make some noise. If Law and Horford's game translates at least somewhat well to the NBA then we could be REALLY dangerous. Cleveland made the NBA finals with one player, IMO. Outside of Lebron, their roster is pathetic, IMO. We don't have a Lebron obviously but we have A LOT they don't. This team is the worst team in the NBA still, there's no reason you wishful think everything else, Everyone gotten better including the Hawks. Here my take. The Hawks still need some major things in order to be sucessful. I think they need Camby, if the Hawks can trade Zaza and Josh Smith for Camby and a future 1st that would give this team a talented vet at Center and it would ensure that the offense flows and that would raise the level of this team to higher heights then ever this decade. I like this squad PG: AJ, Law, Speedy SG: JJ, Chillz SF: Marvin, Chillz PF: Horford, Soloman C: Camby, Shelden, Wright. With chemistry, the playoffs is likely in 2009. It's just too much to give Smith and Zaza for, but we need a pick for 2008. Indy has Dunleavy, Diogu, Granger, and O'Neal who better then anyone on the Hawks, not to mention they has average chemistry which is better then the Hawks. Wizards, Cavs, and Orl are alot better then Hawks. Orl needs to make a good signing this off season though, still better then the Hawks. Boston with the addition of Ray Ray and PP are much better then what the Hawks have. Gooden, Big Z, and Boobie are not patheic, Josh Smith is. Once again your going by highlights and ESPN logic. No wonder why your still a fan, you wishful think everything that's you don't see. You rarely watch the other teams in the league outside of the Hawks right. Smoove, Zaza for Camby man are you smoking crack. That has got to be the most onsideest trade ever. Camby is like 13 years older than both of those guys and he is injury plaqued. Damn !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Quote: Quote: Quote: I thought on talent alone we were top 8 before we drafted Law and Horford. There are teams with one or two stars but with severe dropoffs afterwards. From top to bottom we have a longer list of talented players but might lack potency at the top. Teams like Washington, Cleveland, Boston (use to be), Indiana and Orlando are heavily based on the production of one key player (Arenas, Lebron, PP, JO and Howard). None of those teams have 6-7 players as talented as JJ, Smith, Marvin, Horford, Law and Childress. If Marvin continues to grow and Smith makes improvements here and there then we could make some noise. If Law and Horford's game translates at least somewhat well to the NBA then we could be REALLY dangerous. Cleveland made the NBA finals with one player, IMO. Outside of Lebron, their roster is pathetic, IMO. We don't have a Lebron obviously but we have A LOT they don't. This team is the worst team in the NBA still, there's no reason you wishful think everything else, Everyone gotten better including the Hawks. Here my take. The Hawks still need some major things in order to be sucessful. I think they need Camby, if the Hawks can trade Zaza and Josh Smith for Camby and a future 1st that would give this team a talented vet at Center and it would ensure that the offense flows and that would raise the level of this team to higher heights then ever this decade. I like this squad PG: AJ, Law, Speedy SG: JJ, Chillz SF: Marvin, Chillz PF: Horford, Soloman C: Camby, Shelden, Wright. With chemistry, the playoffs is likely in 2009. It's just too much to give Smith and Zaza for, but we need a pick for 2008. Indy has Dunleavy, Diogu, Granger, and O'Neal who better then anyone on the Hawks, not to mention they has average chemistry which is better then the Hawks. Wizards, Cavs, and Orl are alot better then Hawks. Orl needs to make a good signing this off season though, still better then the Hawks. Boston with the addition of Ray Ray and PP are much better then what the Hawks have. Gooden, Big Z, and Boobie are not patheic, Josh Smith is. Once again your going by highlights and ESPN logic. No wonder why your still a fan, you wishful think everything that's you don't see. You rarely watch the other teams in the league outside of the Hawks right. Smoove, Zaza for Camby man are you smoking crack. That has got to be the most onsideest trade ever. Camby is like 13 years older than both of those guys and he is injury plaqued. Damn !!! He get a first and one of the best Centers in the league, for a backup Center, and a player who cares more about stats, himself, and highlights. That's a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexmethylphenidate Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Without trade, this team will be a disappointment without a playoffs this UPCOMING season. I don't thin anyone will trade Josh Smith but expect to make the playoffs NEXT season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volman Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Quote: Gooden, Big Z, and Boobie are not patheic, Josh Smith is. Once again your going by highlights and ESPN logic. No wonder why your still a fan, you wishful think everything that's you don't see. You rarely watch the other teams in the league outside of the Hawks right. You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. I would call you a dolt, but you probably don't know what that means. I seriously hope English isn't your first language. My eyes were bleeding trying to read what you wrote as "sentences". You think Josh Smith is pathetic? He averaged in the 20's in points, 10+ in rebounds, and 2+ in blocks when Joe Johnson got hurt... There were nights when his statline would real 25/13/7/3. That's petty good (points, rebounds, assits,blocks) I don't know how you can see that Josh Smith is pathetic compared to any of those duds on Cleveland (minus LeBron). Let's check out the stats Josh Smith had in the victories against 1.Cleveland, 2. Boston, 3. Washington, 4. Indionapolis. What did Josh do? Cleveland: (1 Victory) 15 points, 7 rebounds, 3 assists in 33 minutes Boston: (3 Victories) Game 1:18 points, 5 Steals, 3 assists, 4 rebounds, 7 BLOCKS in 36 minutes. Game 2:21 points, 11 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 BLOCKS in 35 minutes. Game 3:DNP (hurt)...Would have blocked probably 15 shots, hah. Washington: (1 Victory) 13 points, 3 blocks, 3 rebounds, 1 steal in only 27 minutes (Zaza was fed the ball that entire game) Indiana: (1 Victory) 25 points, 4 BLOCKS, 2 steals, 5 assits, 13 rebounds I just don't see how you'd rather insert "Boobie" in Josh Smith's place. They don't even compare.. No way in HELL does this franchise ship out their best talent for Marcus Camby. Josh Smith is traded for a big name player only (Kobe, Amare, etc)... Not for an old veteran like Camby. Have you lost your mind? Don't answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volman Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Quote: He get a first and one of the best Centers in the league, for a backup Center, and a player who cares more about stats, himself, and highlights. That's a great deal. Do you watch the games? Josh Smith carried this team on his back while Joe Johnson was injured. I would LOVE for someone like you to go up to a guy like Josh Smith and tell him the REASON HE PLAYS THIS GAME. It's hilarious..He's "playing for stats and highlights". I promise you he doesn't sit at home after a game and look to see if he was on the highlight reel. You obviously aren't/weren't an athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Mule Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Worst talanted team in the NBA? Sure we are! Then, please explain why those "Other" super NBA teams that are so much better managed to loose to the Hawks last season, even tho the Hawks had major injuries to so many of their players when they were playing? Joe Johnson is completely recovered and ready to go. Speedy has had surgury on his troublesome knee and the reports are looking very good on him. The other super teams in the NBA couldn't bury the Hawks in the basement last season. Atlanta has added two draft picks with more talent than the two players they replaced, Royal Ivie and Esteban Batista. Best team in the NBA? Nope, we're not there yet. Worst team in the NBA? In your eyes, perhaps so. If this is REALLY so, you need to go for an eye exam. Hope you don't drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packfill Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 I am not sure where the Hawks rank in terms of talent (that is very subjective), but absent significant injury, I think we should be disappointed with anything less then a winning season and a playoff appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusBoyIsBack Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Quote: AS of June 30, 2007, where do we rank in terms of talent in the eastern conference as a whole team. If you say pure talent from top to bottom in our potential starting 5, we are in the top 3 Every team in the East has at least 1-2 holes in their starting lineup with an average player talent wise Not us! If we start Law and Horford, TALENT WISE there is no lack of talent at any position. Acie Law is a guy with Billups upside Joe Johnson is an all-star Marvin Williams has star potential Josh Smith has start potential Al Horford is a potential star TALENT WISE we are like the Championship Pistons in that regard of talent from top to bottom in the starting 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyMcClure Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Quote: Worst team in the NBA? In your eyes, perhaps so. If this is REALLY so, you need to go for an eye exam. Mule, we were the 4th worst team virtually all of last year. Splitting hairs here, aren't we? Fact is, our players are capable but we have the worst coach in the league. This makes our "talent" look far worse than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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